Human error, Dominion voting equipment fuel false fraud claims in Michigan

The Republican clerk of rural Antrim County in northern Michigan says a glitch in vote totals was fixed by a “minor correction” and is not the stuff of conspiracy. (Bridge file photo by Riley Beggin)

LANSING — When Antrim County’s Republican clerk reported last week that Democrat Joe Biden had trounced President Donald Trump in the fiercely GOP region of northern Michigan, officials and experts correctly questioned what turned out to be a clerical mistake.

But Trump and his supporters cried foul, and days after the error was fixed, they continue to mischaracterize it as evidence of potentially widespread irregularities across the country. 

The unsubstantiated allegation challenges the accuracy of Dominion Voting Systems equipment used in 69 of Michigan’s 83 counties and dozens of states, along with third-party software from ElectionSource of Grand Rapids, which the GOP has claimed is used in 47 Michigan counties. 

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Eric Trump, the president’s son, tweeted a story about Dominion machines in Michigan on Monday and added his own commentary: “Software from hell!” 

As the Trump campaign prepares a legal assault on results in battleground states, Michigan Republican Party spokesperson Tony Zammit told Bridge Michigan that attorneys are examining other counties that use Dominion machines and ElectionSource software “as well as other irregularities that we've seen from county boards and other polling places throughout the state.”

But the Antrim County mistake was a “one-off” caused by an “unusual set of circumstances” and is not evidence of big election problems, said J. Alex Halderman, director of the University of Michigan’s Center for Computer Security and Society.

“If there are more widespread problems, they're likely to come to light through routine post-election procedures,” he said. “But it’s unlikely that there were any problems of great enough magnitude to influence the result in Michigan.”

Biden beat Trump by nearly 150,000 votes statewide, 50.6 percent to 47.9 percent.

A total of 18,059 voters cast ballots in Antrim County, which acknowledged the error Wednesday and corrected it Friday to Trump beating Biden by 2,494 votes.

Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson published a lengthy explanation of the Antrim incident Friday evening, describing it as “human error” caused by the county’s failure to update election management software it used to report unofficial results.

Dominion voting machines tallied the Antrim County votes correctly, but ElectionSource software used to combine the results from individual voting machines was not properly configured, according to Benson’s office. 

“As with other unofficial results reporting errors, this was an honest mistake and did not affect any actual vote totals,” the Department of State said. “Election clerks work extremely hard and do their work with integrity. They are human beings, and sometimes make mistakes. However, there are many checks and balances that ensure mistakes can be caught and corrected.”

Several county clerks that use Dominion voting equipment told Bridge they experienced no irregularities with the election software. 

Barb Byrum, clerk of Ingham County, which uses Dominion voting equipment, said bipartisan county boards of canvassers are currently meeting to review election results, which will serve as another opportunity to check for errors in results reporting.  

Kent County Clerk Lisa Posthumus Lyons, a Republican who was the party’s nominee for lieutenant governor in 2018, told Bridge she has "full faith" in the Dominion product that both Antrim and Kent counties use. 

Michigan’s 83 counties are currently canvassing local results to identify any other potential errors, a routine process that will be followed by a full statewide canvass, which must be completed before any candidate can request a recount. 

Beyond Antrim, none of the election results in counties that use Dominion equipment were outside historical norms. Trump won 63 of the 69 counties and the six counties with the equipment that Biden carried — Wayne, Ingham, Saginaw, Marquette, Kent and Leelanau — are either Democratic strongholds or are becoming more liberal.

What really happened in Antrim

The Antrim County error wasn’t caused by any programming error, said Halderman, the U-M computer science professor. Rather, vote tallies from the Dominion machines did not match ElectionSource candidate “definitions,” which are essentially spreadsheet headers. 

Shortly before the election, Antrim noticed that two local races were not included in those candidate definitions. The county had ElectionSource make a new version of the file and applied it to machines in precincts where those local races were on the ballot, Halderman said. 

The county should have also applied those new candidate definitions to voting machines in most other parts of the county, but it did not. In spreadsheet terms, that means headers did not match the columns in many precincts, where Trump votes were initially reported as Biden votes.

“It was ultimately a human error,” Halderman said. “The election officials in Antrim should have known that all of the election definitions had to be the same… So it’s not really about the software systems. It's about software configurations that didn't match.”

Dominion did not reply to a request for comment, and ElectionSource President Jeff Delongchamp did not respond to a voicemail. In a statement, ElectionSource said it and counties that use its software “settle for nothing less than accurate election results”

There was not a “glitch” in the software, the firm said. “The Election Management Software performed exactly and accurately.”

Antrim County Clerk Sheryl Guy did not respond to Bridge requests, but in a statement shared by ElectionSource, the Republican official said the county had made a “minor correction” to a ballot that caused “compounding changes to how the software totals and presented the data.”

The initially skewed results “were a result of procedural misunderstanding that the Clerk’s Office had never before experienced,” Guy said. 

Halderman said it is fair to call the mistake a glitch, because it was a “real anomaly,” albeit one that was “ultimately minor in character.” Even though human error is to blame, the state, county and software vendors should learn lessons from the incident, he said. 

“The software should be designed to detect and prevent this kind of glitch,” Halderman told Bridge.

“Just like in aviation, when you have an accident that's caused by pilot error, we want to go back and figure out how we can change the technology and the training to make sure that that kind of error can't happen.”

Election security

Leaders in Michigan's Republican-led Legislature signaled Friday that they plan to subpoena records from Antrim County as they investigate "allegations regarding the integrity" of the election. Lawmakers are also pursuing records from Benson’s office and Detroit Clerk Janice Winfrey. 

Experts say what happened in Antrim amounts to a clerical error, of which there were several across the state last week. All were quickly fixed but have been cited by Trump supporters as evidence of wrongdoing.

In Shiawassee County, for instance, Republican Clerk Caroline Wilson accidentally added a zero to Biden’s vote total, temporarily giving him a major boost in unofficial results. The mistake was quickly fixed, but not before a right-wing news site ran an inflammatory headline falsely declaring that a “massive dump” of Biden ballots suddenly appeared overnight in Michigan.

In Rochester Hills, GOP Clerk Tina Barton’s office mistakenly transmitted an absentee ballot count file twice, temporarily boosting Biden’s vote total in a handful of precincts. It was quickly corrected, but Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel cited it as an example of “voting irregularities” in a Friday news conference announcing a new legal team in Michigan. 

Barton responded that evening: “As a Republican, I am disturbed that this is intentionally being mischaracterized to undermine the election process.”

Dominion machines have also been questioned in Georgia, where two counties made errors when encoding voting access cards in electronic poll books. 

But like in Antrim County, those errors were quickly fixed and appear to be the result of small-scale human error, said Ian Kennedy of the Election Integrity Partnership, a rapid response group from the University of Washington and the Stanford Internet Observatory that was formed to address mis- and disinformation. 

"I think what you see is people reaching for something that can be attributed broadly across counties, instead of specifically, and the evidence doesn't really support that," Kennedy said. 

"The election results are really clear, and in order for them to change, there would have to be something systematically wrong. And so this, even though it's false, offers a false narrative of systemic wrongdoing. But like other claims of voter fraud, there's no evidence for it."

Halderman co-chairs the Michigan Election Security Advisory Commission created by Benson to identify weaknesses in the state system and recommend reforms. 

The commission last month released a report detailing a host of potential Election Day problems, including cyberattacks from foreign nations, software problems and power outages. 

“I don’t think the Antrim County incident sheds any light on security problems,” he said. “The state has explained what happened in a way that makes complete technical sense.”

Michigan’s system may be vulnerable to hacks, but not as vulnerable as many other states, according to the commission report. The state uses ballots, which can be audited and reviewed after the election to ensure accuracy and procedural integrity.  

"I thought the Michigan election overall was quite orderly, and the state was very well prepared going into it," Halderman said Monday. "There are still checks and auditing procedures left to do that I think people who are concerned about the result should continue paying attention to. This is how we get evidence the election process is right and one that everyone can believe in.”


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Thanks!
Mon, 11/09/2020 - 5:00pm

Excellent reporting!

"Michigan’s system may be vulnerable to hacks, but not as vulnerable as many other states, according to the commission report. The state uses ballots, which can be audited and reviewed after the election to ensure accuracy and procedural integrity."

The DNC should double check the vote counts in the GOP senate districts, like Linsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, Susan Collins, etc. The stakes are way to high for the DNC to trust those results.

Anonymous
Mon, 11/09/2020 - 6:09pm

Could you please provide examples of clerical errors benefitting Republicans in Michigan or any other states during this election.

Anonymous
Tue, 11/10/2020 - 12:49am

This is both sidesism. Republican clerks made mistakes, and they want you to report democrats making mistakes so they can blame democratic clerks. The problem is that hasn't happened or we haven't heard of it.

That is what they want. Plausible cause.

Every time. For everything.

And they usually get it.

If one was cynical, one might think these clerks did this so that there was something to make cause over.

Carl M
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 2:38am

That is why votes need to be counted. If there is a real democracy and there are claims of rigged election, then Biden as a "winner" should be the first to call for a vote recount - if he is so sure that he won what is he affraid of?

LOL
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 11:34am

Why is Trump hiding in a bunker again?

Anonymous
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 12:04pm

Carl,

if he is so sure that he won what is he affraid of?

I wouldn't go around using that phrase if I was in your camp. That phrase was used by the GOP to justify the Patriot Act spying on you in 2006. By the time Obama was elected? They started complaining about the Govn't spying on them, and I now ask you and Mr Trump"

If ya ain't got nothin; to hide, what are you afraid of? Show us your taxes! Show us the unredacted Mueller report! If you are a patriot the Patriot act is yours. Don't complain about spying when you authorized it.

If these claims had any basis to them, I would back them all the way. You want to throw out MY mail in ballot and tens of thousands of others though. NOT happening!

Lewis32
Sun, 11/22/2020 - 10:37am

Too many instances of anomalies. Just LISTEN to Sydney Powell in the press conference everyone wants to dismiss because they cannot think for themselves. She has very specific information about specific patterns in vote counts that are statistically impossible not just improbable. Also a forensic analysis of software has been done. People are crying about unsubstantiated claims. Well those claims will soon be substantiated in court. The sources of this information do not want their lives ruined until the case is made. The democrats have proven themselves to be evil when it comes to private citizens doing the right thing. Liberal media has kept its base in the dark on this issue in a effort to stifle it. Should the allegations make the case to inaugurate Donald Trump as president this will be an unbelievable kick in the teeth to liberals who will freak out and burn our cities requiring no less than a full military action to stop them.

Greg
Tue, 12/01/2020 - 1:52pm

I've commented before that there are many things that don't make sense. There is however a web woven which is interesting but also could be cherry picking for some of the arguments that Sidney Powell makes. Let me explain. First I also want to state stories like these seem technically impossible to explain and that proves there is systemic fraud happening or a reaction with false stories. The flip of the vote in this one county in Michigan has not be explained. Some of the woven stories which Powell makes sounds good on their face but thinking about this a bit the stories as a whole also show weaknesses to her own arguments which degrade a thing like "statistically impossible" for some of her proofs. Keep in mind although I believe and tend to believe in massive voter fraud based on what I'm hearing I still need to see more proof and apparently the courts do as well. Here's what I mean by Cherry picking which makes this stuff sound a little bit unbelievable. She says massive amounts of votes showed up in vote dumps which were over a short period of time. Faster than the machines could scan the votes. She better prove that somehow with good statistics. She talks about surges of votes which seems like a fix. But then again they talk about scanning in voting machines which are NOT UPDATED right away. This means over the course of some time period no votes were scanned and there was no backlog. And then that those votes appearing from those areas were scanned in a space of time which didn't allow those votes to be added. Which would signify voter fraud at a server level appearing in glitches by theft or injection. But there is a story which they also talk about which is supposedly a VAST dump of votes from mysterious USB keys. They claim these keys are invalid and they have some kind of backlog of votes scanned, but when and where? and that these are scanned into the system or dumped in from USB keys. Well if they were valid votes scanned into USB keys, and they were held up from being batch scanned into the servers, like some kind of off line scanning scheme where only certain local servers or PCs were used to dump them to the centralized servers in Germany or whereever. well those USB keys are operating on pre-scanned voter ballots which may have been scanned legally in rooms into machines and the keys simply are not dumped as they are being scanned but collected as some kind of backlog. Say when the power is out for the main receiving server in Germany. I know I'm making a TON of guesses here, but evidently by their own testimony USB keys can be used to dump votes into the system. And a USB key dump of a prescanned image, is likely a LOT FASTER than scanning the images with the original machine that did the scanning because it's just a little hard drive on a stick and a hard drive is a lot faster than a scanner. So perhaps the information is being presented in a way to make some scans appear to be impossible. But when I look at some of the dominion training videos from maybe earlier years, they show modems and the scanners dumping votes to the servers directly. Perhaps the USB keys are redundant/duplicate backup processes in case the modems fail and in that case the keys are collected as another audited backup of what was going through the scanners, just in case the scanner fails. If the drive in the scanner fails you'd want backup. There are of course several ways that the scanned votes could be sent to the server and it might even vary from scan workstation from one to another. With so much technical variations which may be possible it may be difficult to give any kind of complete analysis or know what the counter arguments would be in court. Technically impossible and surges of votes only for one candidate from a stream of votes which are secret ballots not presorted are all potential signs of fraud. Statistically impossible means fraud is likely happening. I hope her statements on each account are fully accurate and vetted not just throwing stuff on the wall to see if it will stick. Because a few good pieces of vetted evidence is way better than 10,000 lies or spins which appear to be voter fraud, but in the end are unproven and can never hold up in a court of law. There is clearly some kind of deception going on or super sloppy ignorant excuses floating around by the LEFT and FRAUD denying crowds. Those don't bode well for their transparency and fight for truth or whatever they claim they are fighting for. I have to wonder at times depending on the story I read, how can both sides be true or how can the facts be spun so to just create hype and division from both sides, rather than real improvements. Much of the deep state conspiracy stuff makes little sense and is very scary. It's scary not because it's false. It's scary because if true it damns almost the entire democacy as being fooled and manipulated and not even caring to bring the secret enemy to light. In other words it's a big lie perhaps that is horrible as one crafted, but also one that could be true. And one good big lie of course sounds bad, but we've seen the results of 10,000 or 100,000 spins and lies from the press and people who feel offended and create pieces based on feelings rather than facts. And they make up fake news stories, well crying bad feeling stories about Trump as significant when it's just whining. And Trump pushes that even further not ever able to comfort them, he just says screw the fake news and continue forward. He doesn't have time to hold the hand of every teary eyed liberal who feels they are slighted and wants a bedtime story sung to them. He has to get stuff done fast. And that makes the typical politicians very upset, because they like slow steady compromises which keep problems intact but also prevent other ones. They as a body politic prefer the slow inefficient way, because one can't pivot and make quick mistakes that way. And the blame can be spread around for getting nothing done. Political spin is to be abhored, but it's a part of a game and that game is just dirty tricks from the left and right and to be expected. Unfortunately for everyone, everyone now can become a part of the press and give out millions of bits of useless information and muddle the process and claim they have a million points of proof when all they have is a million gripes or perhaps lies. And the press is masters at framing stuff the way they want to go. Bias and propaganda run deep from all sides and keeps the real truth often buried. And the average person doesn't have time to figure out and dig and find out what is true, so we keep working and ignore most of it. There are better ways to structure an audit for a presidential vote that none can claim are false. There is a better way to have the vote organized and audited which is less assailable and easier to run to prevent fraud. I'd think the various secretaries of state would have this figured out and maybe they already do. I've talked with some workers at times and heard about their processes and how they try to avoid fraud and often the systems are pretty good and can prevent fraud. I've also seen how some have discovered ways to game the system to file fraud things and they find a weakness in a system and get money from the government with a flaw they found. And workers in the government have to try to figure out a fix for it, or if the fix is to expensive they may hide that flaw and not fix it because the cost is to great to even run down an punish the flaws and fraudulent and the fraud is written off as a minor cost of doing business. Like credit card theft insurance by Banks. They may just allow minor frauds to occur and not have the manpower or time to run them all down. So these things do happen at time in government and the scale is often so small the officials or those with the knowledge won't talk about those things and will keep it hidden so to avoid hackers pushing out that narrative to millions and extend the fraud to more and more people. It does happen from time to time, and the guardians of the state and you're money will try to fix and improve the system and reduce the theft which many do and justify. Many think we can cheat the government a little bit, because we pay to many taxes or some other justification and they figure little steals and cheats to make a few more bucks. This is a part of fallen nature of mankind, and it's pretty wide spread. I think the generalized rationale of the vote counters in power is if a little cheating from all parties is happening the cheating will kind of balance out. So they may overlook the small stuff, and that can be blown out of proportion and spun as a huge constitutional crisis. I really don't put those things past the left as something they would not do however. Because many have said to me the means is justified by the ends. Or "by any means necessary" which is one of the BLM buzzwords. That's a pretty big threat to worry about. And those kinds of attitudes don't usually built up an economy, a country or the spiritual worth of the soul. They just tear everything to pieces, because they want to watch it all burn.

MW
Tue, 11/10/2020 - 7:13am

Could you please provide examples of errors benefitting either side that weren't caught and corrected?

Anonymous
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 11:31am

No

Bill
Mon, 11/09/2020 - 7:20pm

The Republicans want examples of election fraud so badly, they felt compelled to cite corrected clerical errors by Republicans officials in Rochester Hills and Antrim and Shiawassee counties. That's desperate.

Gina
Tue, 11/10/2020 - 9:03pm

And all "errors' are one sided - funny how that works. DJT is your president.

You're FIRED!
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 6:05pm

Because of Republican incompetence at the local level. Good point, we need to vote out the GOP on all levels. It's not that the fish only stinks at the head. We the People voted to dump trump. Not our president for much longer.

RJ
Tue, 11/10/2020 - 11:27am

Unfortunately, the claims against Dominion may have some validity. Just check into the background of Sequoia and Smartmatic, all owned by Dominion, have had their fair share of controversy. The same company who brought you 'hanging chads' and 'broken touchscreens, 2008' is owned by Dominion. Then there's this article from 2006: http://vcrisis.com/index.php?content=letters/200604100835

I'd strongly advise against a 'rush to judgement'...I'm not sure this election is over, yet...and there is a monolithic pile of lawsuits, the outcomes of which has yet to be determined.

Um, naw
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 11:33am

No one believes Trump has a chance. Everyone working with/for Trump are job hunting right now, just to save face and reduce debts.

Mark
Thu, 11/12/2020 - 8:50am

Doesn't really matter if the public 'believes' it - facts are facts and DJT will be in the White House for 8 more years - get your torches ready cupcake

Andrew LB
Tue, 11/10/2020 - 6:44pm

If it was human error, then why has this same issue happened in Wisconsin and Georgia? People investigating the data have written automated software which checks the county by county vote totals obtained from Edison Data, the same company ABC, CBS, CNN, and NBC use and compares them to the minute by minute vote totals and detects the flipping of votes from Trump to biden. The fraud discovered is absolutely massive.

LMAO
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 11:42am

Q-Anon called and told me the same thing.

Michael
Sun, 11/15/2020 - 8:21am

As one of the people who was actually recording the update change % by %.
It was strange why 'just' the battleground had their vote count freeze for an hour... many overseas was still watching the count update live even if Americans went to bed. People from other countries and those who stayed up to watch the update might not have noticed what happened at Wisconsin when a 1% increase (94-95%) added 180k votes; math doesn't add up as if it forced to correct itself for a charted result.
It is bad to see division in America regardless of how the final result and how many Americans from both sides are not happy with the disputed process. However, what is probably more disturbing is how much of the mainstream media turn off their journalism to report what is going on in America and why would millions of people are questioning the integrity of a country that was the foundation of democracy after WWII. What the media are doing is suppressing information much like the World Famous "Wuhan's State-run media" that kept telling the world "nothing is wrong" "No evidence of human to human transmission".

Why it doesn't get bi-partisan support for investigation (aside from political reason) is beyond me because if I was accused of cheating, I would rather it there be an open investigation than leaving thing as it is. Many people were accepting the result even if it isn't who they want but the balance action that follows up with Media Suppression makes America no different than China.
RIP Li: Your Death was really in vain because the world had already forgotten the errors many global leaders made in the past.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Wenliang
Edit: Some have awaken and many are still fighting for a transparent democracy.
Ps. There are even election offical from the other side that supports the investigation too even if it's still the minority.

Glen G
Tue, 11/10/2020 - 6:56pm

I'm seeing today, 11/10, that a whistleblower has come forward. Will this article be updated?

I call BS
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 11:43am

I wonder if Bill Barr will prosecute people who sign false affidavits.

DS
Tue, 11/10/2020 - 8:57pm

Good clear detailed explanations on what happened.

Gina
Tue, 11/10/2020 - 9:03pm

Got another one for you - sign the petition - recall whitmer!!

Michelle R
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 11:45am

Why, we love her. She is doing a great job. She will be reelected again. Gerrymandering will be gone next election.

What?
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 11:49am

Gina, nice try at deflection.

Orlando
Tue, 11/10/2020 - 10:15pm

Fuel "false" fraud claims.

Kelly
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 7:44am

Liberal outlets, including this site, pushed the voter suppression narrative for people trying to enforce election laws. With no evidence to support the claim.

Now that we do have evidence of possible voter fraud, liberal outlets rush to label it as human error. Yes, many corrected the fraud/error after it was publicized, how many "errors" that haven't been publicized are out there?

Democrats are still resisting all investigations into ensuring the accuracy of this election for some reason.

Where's the meat?
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 11:47am

Trump is busy shredding government records, thinking how he can monetize selling state secrets?

Charlie Day
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 8:48am

Hello!
Democrat here.
The Dominion fraud is not false and last night a high level Dominion employee went on record regarding this last night (with a small news source, due to being canceled by the tabloid media known as Fox news, who are no different than Bridge).
She worked directly under one of the co-owners of Dominion, and witnessed numerous incidents of the same ballots being scanned in to the tabulating machine more than 10 times each (i.e. turning 1 vote into 10 votes).
She is on record also stating that she brought this to her supervisor's attention while they were in Wayne county tabulating ballots (Supervisor, co-owner named Nick Ikonomakis), and he told her to ignore it.
She will be interviewed by investigators soon, today I suspect.
Bridge is participating in covering this up and it's kind of disgusting.
We Democrats value Democracy, and Democracy can not live when the media is trying to define and redefine the truth instead of reporting on what is going on.
Please stop this nonsense.

I call BS
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 11:53am

Anyone who reads any of your posts knows you aren't a democrat. So I stopped reading at that lie.

Tuna
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 11:56am

You lost, sorry Charlie!

a Democratic voter
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 12:11pm

Please stop this nonsense.

Anna
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 9:01am

The article makes much of the fact that Michigan " ... uses ballots, which can be audited and reviewed after the election to ensure accuracy and procedural integrity."

But how many Michigan jurisdictions actually conduct reviews or audits? What proportion of our voting precincts, and what proportion of Michigan's votes are subject to random-selection audits, held by which counties and cities? I've repeatedly heard that there is "no evidence" of election fraud or abuse of mail-in ballots. And I have even more repeatedly wondered where and when do election officials look for evidence of any problems?

Bridge could help to reassure suspicious voters by covering the election operation post mortems, any audits that are routinely performed by City, County, and Township clerks or state-wide, and the "corrective actions" taken by jurisdictions to prevent re-occurrence of the errors described in this report were "found and fixed" during Election Day and shortly afterwards.

For a specific example, it made me suspicious, back in mid-2019, that Secretary of State Benson refused to perform what had been the routine update of our state voting rolls to mark those voters as "inactive" who hadn't voted in 8 or more years or responded to one or more postcards to their registration address. She claimed that this 2-decade old standard procedure amounted to intentional voter suppression. It made me even more suspicious when Benson used that un-updated voter roll to send an absentee ballot application to every registered voter in the state, including those previously marked inactive in 2015.

Could Bridge please report on any extra precautions to prevent absentee voting in multiple jurisdictions that were put in place during this election's unprecedented expansion of voting by mail? And if there were no extra precautions pre-election, what are the plans to audit absentee voting, including collaboration across states?

Get a job!
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 12:00pm

Interesting. Bridge could help the frivolous Trump lawsuits for free. Genius if you don't understand the concept of journalism or freedom of the press. You realize Trump is still president, right? If Trump lost, he should be able to prove it. He controls our government. Trump lost even in states run by Republicans with no proof anywhere of fraud.

bja
Mon, 11/16/2020 - 12:26am

Well put.

Suckers
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 11:27am

Yeah, we know Trump is a grifter, a liar, a heretic. but he gives us a voice. All the PC police took away our right to vent. In high school, I was considered cool when I dropped the F-bomb and the N-word. Now I feel, well, feminine. So yes I will give more money to Trump to fight for a recount, even though I know 50% of the money will go to pay Trump's campaign debts. Yeah, I know he lost and that he is a loser, but man, I love him. So get over it, I know I'm getting into debt to relieve Trump of his debt. I look at it as an entertainment bill, like my exorbitant cable bill. Again, I know he lost. I know Biden won. I know Biden will be better for our country. Just let me be. I'm having a moment. Trump gives me a reason to be.

Thomas Taylor
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 2:28pm

People just need to be patient and push for MI to do a hand-recount, and a revetting of the ballots, complete with matching envelopes, matching signatures, valid addresses, and so forth.

Thomas Taylor
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 3:00pm

Michigan just needs to do a complete hand-recount. Match envelopes with ballots. Match signatures. Let GOP poll watchers observe the process. Look for dead people and multiple people at the same address. Basic forensics. So people don't think the election was a Democrat Fraud

I call BS
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 6:10pm

The election was not even close and there is no evidence of fraud. So STFU and grow up. We don't have money to waste on frivolous lawsuits and BS GOP fantasies.

Blah Blah
Thu, 11/12/2020 - 3:49pm

Waste money on frivolous lawsuits??? LOL. Short term memory I see. Waste on impeachment and four years of whiny bullshit.

Charles Mimnaugh
Wed, 11/11/2020 - 8:04pm

Interesting that all the "mistakes" gave votes to Biden, none to Trump.

Joyce Brown
Thu, 11/12/2020 - 2:09pm

This piece reeks of partisanship and most of the comments bear that out. Deplorable.

John Q Censored
Thu, 11/12/2020 - 3:16pm

Let's see how Georgia shakes out. It might unlock the key to everything else.

Let's see if this comment gets censored just like the rest.

Joe Biden
Thu, 11/12/2020 - 10:19pm

When a Trump supporter signs a statement claiming they witnessed voter fraud also believes that the President is involved in a covert operation to take down a global cabal of child rapist..while at the same being the only one standing up and protecting the US from the one world communist government!!!... Its not gonna hold much weight in the courts!!! Sorry Donald......sad

Oh no!!!
Thu, 11/12/2020 - 10:22pm

If Trump is no longer the President how is he going to take down the global cabal of child rapist?!?!?! Save the children!

Shawn
Fri, 11/13/2020 - 12:56am

So coming from a Senior Software engineer with 18 years in the industry, any data being passed via a human should have code written to validate the data exchange. So my question is why doesn't the software validate the spreadsheets using schema? This would ensure that any inconsistences with the spreadsheets would not allow the software to continue until the spreadsheet matched the scheme.

Greg
Tue, 12/01/2020 - 10:29am

I also want to see the columns for the spreadsheet. And how they are mapped to the ballot and how the ballot looked. I want to see the explanation with my own eyes as told here in Bridge. Because I've heard two stories. Let me be clear in this. If the initial columns of the ballot were containing the president and Biden in the first columns of the spreadsheet and new columns that needed to be added were further down in the ballot after all Trump and Biden columns, then the shift could NEVER happen by adding or taking away columns if balancing of spreadsheet columns was not done to verify all columns were sent. This would mean a shift in the vote totals could happen as all positional data below the needed change of definition would occur. But that would mean local or custom changes would have to be BEFORE the president and vice president national elections in the data, not after. I've never seen a ballot laid out that way. So the description of the problem MAKES ZERO sense to me as a retired computer programmer who worked with scanning software, but not on dominion systems.
Former state employee here who swore to uphold the Michigan constitution when working for the state. The other reason for the mistake was told on CBS news which was the forms were scanned in backwards. There is no way a backward scanned form would flip the results. Flipping the results would have to occur with a programmed means to flip the results. If Trumps votes were offset into Bidens columns because he was immediately before or after Biden, then Biden's votes would have been added somewhere else into another electors ballot count, but not flipped into Trumps column. If it's a FLIP IN VOTES it CANNOT IN REALITY BE DONE by the column shift of ballots as the shift will only go in ONE DIRECTION. SHOW ME THE PROOF, Bridge or secretary of state of this error explanation and how it literally worked. They won't be able to either in theory or reality, unless the design is so freaking ridiculous in it's design it's some kind of very weird misdirection scheme, like a complex neural network cell transfer or data totally scrambled and un-audited by simple means. I'm sure they'll come up with some better explanation when real programmers point out the total error in their ways. If you want more proof there is something wrong, this kind of error was never seen before as well with this kind of system by the one report as they did things the same way. In other words that's code talk for this is a new kind of error.

There is NO WAY a shift in columns in a spreadsheet which is a fundamental linear ARRAY INDEX on one dimension can FLIP the votes of TWO CANDIDATES. It's simply impossible to do. I know this because I understand how ARRAY INDEXING WORKS. So the ballot votes ABSOLUTELY column arrays CANNOT BE FLIPPED or exchanged between one candidate to another with a SIMPLE SPREADSHEET LOSS OF COLUMNS or a mis-scan reading the sheets backwards or upside down or whatever an early CBS news stream implied. This means there is NO KNOWLEDGE of how a TWO DIMENSIONAL ARRAY representation of columns would work for data exchange by the Bridge News nor the Secretary of State. This means that is a VALID SMOKING GUN and absolute proof in my mind that the flipping could not have happened without voter fraud likely AT THE SERVER LEVEL by Dominion. It's a layer behind the exchange layer, and likely is programmed to flip the votes with a fractional voting processing scheme or some other scheme. And it's likely programmed to do this over and over again, while preserving logs which match the real scanned votes sent to the server and preserving logs that those receive buffers were completely honest. The flaw is likely in the back end of the servers. And one sign of it is FLIPPED VOTES between two parties. There is NO WAY this explanation given by the Secretary of the State works. But higher ups are often ignorant in basic computer processing logic, so they can float a fake theory out there that is total BS and believe it. But any top ten percent programmer would know it's BS and any regular programmer would realize it's impossible to do. (I'd be willing to talk with any of them and have them show me I'm wrong.) The scheme can happen in one of many ways. Maybe on more than one fraud method. It could be by some elaborate scheme involving fake physical ballots which were exchanged or injected into the system. Vote harvesting by organizations acting as conduits for the vote could steal votes or exchange batches of votes easily. The more hands and steps in the process the greater the chance for theft and fraud. So I'd never Trust CAIR with my vote. For some schemes doing the fraud more than once and having it work more than once would be difficult to do.

Even a batch changed at a simple level once decoded and re-encripted in USB keys could be injected once and must be injected in a different path with a plan during the recount, to do this. This means some kind of flipping accumulation occurred at the receiving end programmed or designed to work to FLIP the votes between to candidates, which is IMPOSSIBLE or to do back end fractional calculations based on some kind of simple or complex vote stealing algorithm on the back end. This ONE MISTAKE proves to me beyond a shadow of a doubt, but I'm open to being shown actual proof just show me the BALLOTS USED, and the ARRAY RELATIONSHIP and how the ARRAY was transmitted for the batch and how it allowed a flipping of votes. Fractional stealing of votes to mix up the votes would work differently than flipping but could be used as a rough guide with one of hundreds of vote fraud automation routines flipped into a shadow server or temporarily into the process via reboots and reloading or reloading of the main software programs doing the counting or manipulation.

There are probably hundreds of approaches but in thinking of how to do this from a procedural end, neither the explanation from CBS news which said ballots were scanned backwards, nor this ARRAY INDEX shift of columns makes ANY SENSE. In theory for simple voter fraud programming, if you want to do a basic fraud you could do a FLIP of votes between two candidates selectively on some batches via by programmed selection to flip some batches for the totals you want. The programming would not have to occur at the level of hardware where the voters were scanned, they could be done fairly easily at the server level or even with shadow redundant servers which take over processing and inject the fraud into the account but are undetetable by the server software left behind.
If you flipped the votes between two candidates via exchange to totals of votes would match, so no injection of new votes would be needed, but a simple theft of votes from one to the other. That could easily happen but to recreate it you'd need the same flawed process to exist and the same votes to exist and batches to be scanned. This means a software fix down stream in the serves would be easy to do at a high leel.
Each scheme would have a flaw and have to be incorporated in a system that remained flawed in the same way to recreate the valid count.
Actually minor corrections from one to another would be desired in the recount process to give an appearance of some minor bugs caught and make the back end fraud less likely to be seen with a simple audit. If it's done in code and the fraud code base remains then it should be detectable in theory. Simple frauds to flip votes at the server could do this with transaction buffers from the sending and receiving logs looking fine and correct. The flip MIGHT happen in the accumulation of the votes. (Sort of like a 3/5 weighted vote scan value) You'd do this after the transmit and receive buffers matched and showed the array out and array in buffers matched and you'd have NO LOG of the calculations. If they were very complex meaning super complex designed code they MIGHT EVEN be designed in such a way that the flipping logic would be quickly inserted into the process to flip massive batches of records and they would not work the same way perhaps to avoid patterns of statistical fraud from being seen from one run to the other, but the paths would be programmed to give the same result from two different flipping processes, both run behind the curtain.

In other words a really slick program would have more than one module in the back end programmed to give the same results but with different processing methods and in a different weighted stealing control system so the fraud would happen a different way with each run but always give the same predefined results. And that predefined results could be slightly different and all programmed in a sophisticated programming design fraud. (Who would have that kind of budget and who is experts and hacking? Well any shadow agency would be a great candidate in a typical spy movie, so that rings true to the public at large, whether true of false). The spy agencies or great programming companies that did this for big money or big profits would do this pretty well and it would be difficult to detect this. It would be easy to see that the flip happened if you compared the logs of transfer to the totals and had a real value and machine buffer transfer log that matched a TRUE LOG from the sending machines. You could also create a more sophisticated virus that would work on the sending side configured wrong to blame the clerk or office and inject small or large batches that were flipped or manipulated at the sending PC end for the sending device if they are harvesting them there.
I would actually love to be in an open source kind of review process to show the States how to implement a more safe way to vote which cannot be manipulated. There are some simple and some complex ways to do this. But one of the ways is to really tighten down the ability for voters to check their vote and make it private to others, but preserve their votes so they can check on their own votes and make sure they were counted. This would help any voter know his vote counted, but not help for systemic voter fraud exchanges of totals. That still would have to be designed with many checks and balances. The problem of course is MAIL in vote allows much fraud undetected once it happens. So I'd say that is a big problem and something they need to fix. But there is another HUGE PROBLEM, which is the more sophisticated a computer system is, the more complex it's designed, the easier it is to inject fraud into that system especially if we use AI means and more advanced programming to "Help eliminate future fraud". The most complex the code and protection of you're privacy the easier it is for the high security or deep state code to steal you're vote. So ironically more humans without computers will make it harder to do mass fraud at the calculation level and is easier to detect. Canada has it right on that account.

It depends on the architecture and how the program software and all the layers interact. Surely the manufacturer could put some kind of shadow code into play if they were really devious and create even virtual machines that worked but were somehow altering the scanned results. The ability to have fraud especially with votes being accumulated and totals done on the net somewhere else or at back ends on the server with hacking or programmed design are of course almost infinite, so manual audits with completely different trusted and vetted equipment of a different type would have to be done. But "recreating the fraud" would also be impossible with many designs of the fraud or execution unless the people involved at the fraud layer were doing the same things. Like rescanning the same batches fraudulently each time. Or if the thing was "timed" with shadow apps or flipping done by a timed approach of shutting down the servers at a certain batch point. The software would have to be either very sophisticated which I would expect from a CIA vote fraud operation for a third world banana republic. Or it would have to be performed in some one off way. And that fraud then would have to be upstream and unchangeable from the recount audit. The best way to do that would be simple vote fraud by stealing votes at the ballot level and separating them from verification of votes back to valid votes case, meaning mail in processes that allow the envelope of the vote from the voter and id of the voter to be separated from the actual vote so the entire process cannot be re-performed are INHERENTLY FRAUDULENT in that step and cannot be affirmed. Any fraudulent votes would never be caught in a simple recount process, and as far as I can tell the processes the states have put in can NEVER prove that fraud at harvesting or fake ballots being interjected can be audited and found as individual fraud and proven. You are talking about the signature thing. If legal vote harvesting happened it seems that that does not allow a pattern to exist of these votes being all or mostly for Biden, Not from nursing homes, not from homeless addresses of PO boxes or whatever, and NOT from even 70 to 80 percent Arabic voter cast parties from a mosque. Even Cair if they are correct and ran the harvesting operations legally and seemingly above board would not be able to put a batch into play that would be scanned almost 100% for Biden. In claiming they helped Biden win with the Arabic vote they still don't give percentages which show that they would give results from their scanned batches that would so much benefit Biden. The statistical smoking gun is MORE REAL and unexplained to see than individual vote fraud ballots from voter fraud. The only ballots a sophisticated scheme would use would be mail in ballots votes if the fraudsters were smart, because that kind of vote would leave less audit trail to prove the ballots were fraudulent. The massive frauds described and smoke and even actions from the democrats which LOOK LIKE A DUCK and act like a DUCK and defend like a DUCK makes it a DUCK in my mind. This article does NOTHING at all to tell me and convince me that batch flip is NOT the proof of voter fraud. As votes cannot be cured which are fraud by signatures being wrong and I can tell you it looks like if testimony is true that massive batches of votes were all for Biden from places like nursing homes, that is a sign of MASSIVE VOTER fraud of ballot theft.

Have you seen an assisted living or nursing home tour lately? I looked at one and it was not even the nursing home side and all the tenants were lined in the hallways in wheelchairs and drooling or comatose. There is no way you can tell me those people voted fairly and could give me an account for who they voted for and a mail in audit could prove their votes were not all stolen for Biden or anyone, It could be stalin or hitler, if the guy putting the fake ballots into a replacement scheme worked the system. Those lower level scams would require more conspiracy and those involved would have to know what they were doing and face death threats by higher ups if they revealed the truth. That would be more difficult to hide and not be a kind of fraud that could be detected at the processing server end because votes would be spoiled and illegal votes used at an UNAUDITED paper trail level. Supposedly statistically 700,000 more votes were scanned from mail in Pennsylvania than received as legal ballots. That means if true ALL VOTES from mail in to Pennsylvania are spoiled by default and must be tossed out or those legislatures are going to systemically allow the fraud to determine the election. How can that not cause ALL votes to be spoiled in that mail in ballot election as the firewall in the audit process is hopelessly broken and can be attacked by some batches which go in and can never be audited as being false.

Ability to commit massive fraud via COVID: You have for example 18 million nursing home voters probably in the country who are in a nursing home and they are isolated from their friends and family often via COVID. and their votes maybe half to them can easily be replaced by systemic fraud. And there is NO WAY the current procedures as I can see them can stop false vote batches from being found quickly and easily via a recount. This means there is ample smoking guns to say ALL MAIL IN BALLOTS are spoiled or could be. And I can't see any audit explanation that makes sense that shows me how the TRUMP administration nor even the secretary of state can prove to me that the mail in ballots were not a part of massive fraud either on the back end of the human batch and steal votes from those who never even voted, but had their ballots taken route. They cannot prove to me that they didn't do it, but also the democrats and press unfortunately have shown a PATTERN of fraud and lying and spin which is so ANTI-TRUMP that they show me a character that seems to show me they can never be trusted and would do it. Not all democrats of course, but not all would be needed. The biggest problem with the Republican campaign is systemic flaws exist and in theory they should be able to show actual proof. But if it's deep state conspiracy related with "good and bad" CIA guys involved or two teams. Our democracy is so unbelievably F----d. we have literally no way to prove the massive fraud. Because logic would tell me that if someone like the CIA did this they would COVER THEIR tracks and hide the crimes from the audit trail. That means we have systemic flaws and circumstantial evidence that can be shown as seemingly statistical proof, but NOT ACTUAL proof at a vote by vote audit level and not something that can easily or perhaps ever cured, for the presidential election. If it's deep state verses deep state warfare we will likely never know the truth. Just spin from each side. No matter how much time you spend to fix the flaws we may never know the truth if this is CIA on CIA warfare.

SOME REPUBLICAN witnesses are totally without proof however and that's sad as well. It's testimonial noise at best and hurts their case, because they are throwing conjecture instead of facts into the mix. Quantity doesn't equal quality.

I know flaws can exist and by spun as proof of fraud. I saw 40 minutes of testimony that was completely boring and had no evidence at all from the witnesses in one hearing and didn't watch the more compelling truth. Why the Trump team would allow 40 minutes of "just minor signs of fraud that could happen" with no real proof at all is beyond me? One or two proven pieces of fraud that can be verified is WAY better than 1000 guesses by people who "felt something was wrong" but have half an understanding of what is going on and make conjecture of IT technology which is half behind a curtain of "secrecy". Yes my vote should be secret from others and from intimidation, but our votes should not be secret from an audit path that can verify each vote cast was valid and my vote was cast and was counted. There is NO EXCUSE for the lame designs I'm seeing in the system of how the states apparently have handled the votes via DOMINION server and server farms. Mail in ballot fraud ripe for massive fraud and undetected via interference of design via COVID, and the actions of the people in charge acting like they have something to hide.

This BRIDGE ARTICLE SEEMS LIKE A PUFF PIECE - Sorry Bridge but that's what I get from it.
And PUFF PIECES like this with no provable meat but only press lite conjecture that everything is fine, is not proof at all. It just shows you don't know how silly the excuses really are. All the excuses by the state are laughable when you go into the details of how this must have happened via their account. It's pure fiction as far as excuses. It does not have technical merit. I know, I'm to be comforted. It's okay and we can trust the wizard behind the curtain of privacy can only mean one thing.

NOW I DON'T Trust the system. Congrats to the State and this article, you've just proved to me another lie won't solve my questions. It's a fake excuse. Maybe excuse number 2. Column shifting excuses BIG LIE number 2. It actaully proves more than systemic fraud is in the system and the people who are explaining this are ignorant or covering up the truth.

I don't trust the system and potentially voter fraud has likely been systemically designed and put out for years and decades. This article doesn't disprove that it actually helps prove it due to it's shoddy analysis. It's now more likely that America is not only a banana republic this election but has been one for some time. It's possible that since the advance into these kinds of rules. No legitimate audited election has every occurred maybe not for decades. Dominion may really be named aptly and truly be in charge. In theory such voter fraud would be noticed and some would understand that and leaked out.

And we even have both sides REPUBLICAN and DEMOCRATS saying THIS IS OKAY for the CIA and RUSSIANS to do to Banana republics for their own sake but not OKAY for the CIA and others to do for our own country. WE are NOT A BANANA republic is the most crazy phrase ever spoken. That statement is FRAUGHT with irony of the most dark nature in politics, It's perhaps the most dark thing I've ever heard.
Because it implies it was okay when it was done to others small countries for my bananas. That was okay. For our 1st world countries or the empire of USA, Russia, China, Cuba, etc. It was okay? It was okay for them to do fake democracy for banana republics, but it's not for us? WHAT THE F are these people saying. They are implying it's okay for others and our expanse of democracy to the world is a MASSIVE FRAUD.
It's HUGE KARMA perhaps.
All our eggs have come home to our own basket it seems. And perhaps Trump really realized this and knows this. Maybe this has been BUSINESS AS USUAL. And that is a blot and record and fog that hangs over the entire land and our entire history or recent one. And I don't know who was really the governor elect, for any election perhaps in the past now. I don't know who was truly elected and then again which laws are valid and the entire system has been gamed of course by charges of fraud and helping some to win and others to lose. The nature of the systems is such that every contract awarded with have a dozen conspiracy theories either true or false attached to it. So it becomes a thing about trust.

And there are many who can game the system. And gaming the system is Business as usual in politics. So this just rips the veil of secrecy and fraud off democracy and shows us a secret ballot is merely a curtain to hide behind, so you're friendly or evil wizard of OZ can steal you're vote behind the privacy they claim to respect.

Greg
Tue, 12/01/2020 - 10:48am

I wrote a longer answer but let me give you the simple one. There is NO WAY a simple insertion in a column row of a spreadsheet or data buffer with mail boxes for each vote can exchange the votes between Biden and Trump. There is no way because all the votes are offset and shifted in one direction. There is no way and anyone who understands how arrays work or how data buffers works or how basic messages work with columns and rows can prove to me how that would work. It could never work because the ballot totals or columns have other values in there in the transmission buffer as described in the nature of the problem. New designs had more rows inserted into some but not others. That makes ZERO SENSE because you have to cut and paste two fields in two different directions in those columns and have at least one buffer or cell to hold the one column while the other column is pasted into it. So you need three column locations to do the switch which could be in the memory buffers of a spreadsheet as a working temporary column. But in buffers with match another way to do this at a low level systemic means would be to use one of the other buffers as a temporary accumulator. In other words if this was done at a REGISTER level in a communication buffer space (unlikely but it would be a buffer intermediate attack of code during the transmission in a temporary buffer then the buffer space might be used with a limited register space being used for each batch. That means a register for each column would also be the limit for the storage space to perform the fraud on. That is kind of brilliant because it would get rid of temporary variables in the system somewhere and maybe undectectable. It would require a third party location to store the votes in and maybe use the party of another column for temporary accumulation of the votes, to then be subtracted from them to add back to the first candidates values or simply steal some votes with them as an intermediate place holder. There are more than one scheme that could be programmed in a registry buffer like attack but that is rather complicated to describe or program. My point is no matter how you slice it you need THREE COLUMNS to do an exchange or some temporary register spot to hold one of the figures. And a SIMPLE SHIFT of columns WILL NEVER DO THAT IN A BILLION YEARS. It's impossible to switch the two columns from one to another with a column mismatch by adding candidates to one definition and not from another. What does this simply mean.

This means that one error is PROOF OF A SMOKING GUN of FRAUD and neither the CBS explanation of forms being scanned backwards is proof nor this excuse. It's actually proof that the excuse is either ignorantly made or the FRAUD IS REAL and planned. That that means the election is compromised. Did it affect the overall results and is that a crime. I have to go with the most likely scenario. Which is systemic voter fraud is a part of our "democracy" by design for all who are compromised by the dominion system. This means also there are some who act like a duck and operate like a duck and hide our votes as secret behind our backs like a duck and hide and protect you're vote not only from others by from you and from a good audit. So all my votes could have been stolen in the past as long as these systems have been used and apparently the powers that be in the State don't care or know perhaps that this is a fraud. Maybe all of this democracy in recent decades has been a banana republic and we are victims of our own "banana republic" fixing as well.

End of short version.

Richard David Flynn
Fri, 11/13/2020 - 7:30am

I thought your Covid coverage was very good. Who brought the paper for the windows? Who instructed poll workers to cover the windows? When oversight is denied for one minute, some number of poll workers are taking action other than their sworn duty to maintain integrity of the election.

Saying Antrim was a one off is a lie. Bridge had no way of verifying that assertion.

So happy I hesitated in donating to your fake election news.

Roy
Fri, 11/13/2020 - 9:38am

I have been a computer scientist for over 30 years. Issues such as the one that is being reported would be suspect in a testing environment. Systems and "software configurations" that present any issue can, and most likely do, have issues in "hand-shaking" data thus not providing the true data collected by the initial process. Sorry, but as a software engineer this issues raises many red flags.

Carl Krammit
Fri, 11/13/2020 - 6:07pm

Isn't it strange how all of the errors, both human and non-human, are GOING IN ONE DIRECTION (votes for Biden)??

an Enigma
Sun, 11/15/2020 - 2:54pm

Isn't even more strange how they were all caused by republican clerks? If one was cynical, one might think it was done purposely.

Gary DesRoches
Mon, 11/16/2020 - 11:14am

I don't know enough about the Dominion program but what is reported is there are some very serious weaknesses.
I've done my share of programming. The first thing is to determine what is trying to be accomplished (counting votes) and how to be effective, making sure the count is correct and secure.
Not knowing the facts about how the program is constructed I can't tell if identifiable weaknesses have been addressed or not. The report the machines were connected to the internet and the USB ports were accessible are certainly serious security problems. Adequate security control of those logins that can modify the data is a must.
There is a known process to take care of scanning jams. I suspect each scan does not have a good, unique identifier to address the problem of multiple scans of the same document, which if true, will cause or allow multiple vote counts for the same ballot.
I would have designed the program with a checksum that includes a unique identifier, the votes on this specific ballot, and provide for encryption and security for the data at every place I could.
If at all possible inputs need to be made to prevent the other problems, such as dead people voting. Any kind of check for suspect data, like large sets of 100% votes for one candidate, and any method to determine if the data could be suspect, like more votes than registered to vote, should be flagged for investigation.
The know, "garbage in, garbage out" problem needs to be addressed. If there were invalid ballots for any reason, but the input to the program otherwise is formatted correctly, the program will spit out an invalid result. Some way outside of the program needs to adequately address all of these problems.
If these known problems were not well resolved then someone intended to take advantage of the flaws to cheat the system.

Arbo1876
Mon, 11/16/2020 - 5:19pm

“The software should be designed to detect and prevent this kind of glitch,” Halderman told Bridge.
Agree 100%,it is unbelievable such software is accepted by a state to select a person who can press a "button". I do live in a country with a better system than USA has. Shocking.
The country of Google, Microsoft etc can not get a decent software program. Why not?
Do a recount in all states, or do not talk about people who do not trust your system anymore. Next time, it can be other side,

Gary Klein
Tue, 11/17/2020 - 4:08pm

Being a former computer coder/programmer, we had a truthful saying: "To Err is Human, but to Really Screw Things Up, You Need a Computer!" That seems to be the case here and more than likely other places as well. If I was going to rig an election, I wouldn't mess with the ballots, that is small potatoes, I would use the computer software that tallies the totals. Was this done deliberately? We don't know, and the only reason it was caught was because it made no sense at all that a Republican county went to Biden aka Sleepy Joe. Yeah, I would have shaved some votes from Trump, but you can't take most of them like happened here.

Greg
Thu, 11/19/2020 - 2:28pm

Who do I trust regarding reporting? Bridge or CBS? I saw a report on CBS news about this software problem not being a software problem but human error on CBS news. The report stated that the problem was incorrect totals due to ballots being scanned in wrong upside down or fed in some way into the machine so the ballots registered for Biden not Trump. It was simple human error for about 3000 ballots in one county that showed an error and was corrected. The CBS report stated that the problem was a software error regarding the scanning of the ballots and it was corrected. The report by mainstream media did not state it was some kind of spreadsheet tabulation error or mismatch of ARRAY INDEXES to cells in a spreadsheet reporting program, which is what this article is implying. This article is implying that software updates had to be made to allow additional candidates added to have locations on the ballot which were not in other columns so a shift in votes occurred from mismatched column definitions or missing column definitions in reporting software for some machines. Really? Can you prove that. Can the state of Michigan prove to me that the CBS story was false and this story was true? Can the state of Michigan prove to me that ballots were not scanned backwards or in some wrong order like fed in backwards and not defaulted to Biden for some "scanning error"? Can the state prove to me that I voted and that my vote counted and who I voted for? Can the state prove to me that my parents voted and who they voted for and how they voted? Can I look this up? Supposedly I can according to the Secretary of State website. Supposedly I can trust the people who work for the City of Detroit who are reading all the ballots and the poll watchers and challengers can look at and challenge any vote. Supposedly nobody can scan a ballot twice or put in fake ballots and those would be detected. Supposedly nobody can take voters who are in nursing homes and influence them to vote in one way, or take their "legal" ballots as they are in nursing homes and mark them for one candidate and these people in nursing homes who sit almost comatose in their wheelchairs lining the hallways unaware of even who is visiting them can vote legally and all vote for Biden. Supposedly medical staff that visit these people will not be influencing them to vote one way in the course of their job, even as home health care professionals in our home come to my parents who are supposedly suffering from dementia and cognitive issues. And these health care professionals lobby my parents directly to vote for Obama and then Hillary and then Biden. Supposedly the City County Building is full of workers who are non-partisan and they as civil servants are not supposed to show partisanship during the course of their work or lobby for one candidate or the other. Supposedly when I visited Detroit to see the people who saw Candidate Obama back in 2008 in Detroit supposedly when I took a picture of the Detroit City County Building at that time a set of posters in the window geared toward candidate Obama was not in the window of the City County building which is supposedly the City of Detroit and supposedly that photo I took back then would be a lie now if I showed it. And supposedly I'm supposed to take these things as being evidence from the news both CBS which tells me the forms were simply scanned wrong by workers and worker error happens but is corrected and that worker error just happened to help Biden and not Trump and it was just a software "scanning glitch" but not it's conveniently a spreadsheet glitch. Supposedly the votes by the procedures of poll watching and election watching on the Secretary of State website which I downloaded state if to many challenges happen by a poll challenger or poll watcher which slows down the vote count, they can be thrown out for interfering and checking on the validity of a vote. Supposedly they can only check for dates of birth not signartures when the ballots are opened from the mail. Supposedly a full audit can happen, but won't happen because I'm supposed to trust them. Supposedly all it fine just some errors were made to help Biden only and it was all a setup by republicans who are to blame and we should just trust the democrats. And supposedly if we get rid of all republican candidates through removing gerrymandering with new gerrymandering for the democrats instead, all will be well and we never have to question democrats. Supposedly the democratic press or those who are in the press never make up fake news, it's all true rumor and innuendo based on what someone thinks or feels or believes. And that press as the 4th estate is telling me the truth without bias. It's all a bunch of BS. As far as I'm concerned. I know that civil servants are supposed to be non-partisan and there are of course some who may violate that rule and cheat for their candidate choice. I know that it can happen but supposedly it's only done by Republicans through "error" and that user error was used to "frame" democrats who are all doing their job correctly. And republicans are just making errors for Biden to say that democrats are and democrats never cheat. How much BS do I have to swallow and how many bars of soap do I have to bend over and reach to believe these statements of fact? I don't believe them. I don't believe bridge articles, I don't believe in the mainstream press. I also don't believe false narratives from the far right. But you have to PROOF TO ME that the system isn't rigged to allow Biden to win and it was not abused. You have to prove this with a full audit and include to me proof real ballots were not remarked or filled in for those who did not use them or even know what the hell they were doing. And that those in quarantine drugged up and protected from their families for the sake of their lives didn't have their votes stolen to help Biden win. After all they were all killed by our president. And he was a threat to their health directly and responsible for their deaths. And of course we must blame him for the things Democrats did. And supposedly when executive orders limiting my freedom of movement and commerce are completely legal and good from our Governor, and if the President doesn't do the same and be a dictator he is not a good president and guilty of murder, but our little dictator in office does all things right. I know I know, it's all the Republicans fault. Every thing done by the democrats and the press have been perfectly legal and they won't win on their side "using any means necessary". They are as innocent as all left wing and anti-facists. They are simply fighting against "statesmen" after all Hitler was for Germany, and nationalism is by default bad, but Churchill and Stalin were okay and they were not statesmen? So Trump equals Hitler, but Whitmore is fine. Yes and we can trust the democrats, socialists and comunists because only republicans take advantage of and make money from their own office. Democrats never do that, only republicans. Well I've worked under both and for both. So unfortunately I don't believe it. So the burden of proof is for the state of Michigan to prove to me as a voter that they have not fixed the election and prevented voter fraud by showing me that the valid ballots were cast and those who didn't cast votes legally were not having their votes taken and recast by party players from any side. They have to prove that to prove to me voter fraud. Find any bad actor you wish to blame for their procedure changes to "help save our lives" and keep us safe, and keep the ballots safe from tampering, but only from tampering from the Republicans and not democrats, and prove to me I can trust any election in Michigan again. Because although this seems like an attack on democracy itself and a theft of the lives of voters themselves by stealing their votes and changing them. This is simply a little thing and little story so move on. I know it's just Trump making up a noise from a configuration of votes which favor Biden and the fearful who mailed in from home. I know the overarching reality which may and should favor Biden. All I ask for is proof at the vote audit level. As a citizen of the State of Michigan and taxpayer, is that too much to ask for. (Former State worker here and someone who has worked in Data Processing and with "scanning software support for the State of Michigan".)