Confusion reigns in Michigan over masks, business rules after COVID ruling

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, shown here with U.S. Rep. Dan Kildee, said Monday that a requirement that people wear masks in public places such as retail stores remain in place, despite a Supreme Court ruling that invalidated her powers on Friday. (Bridge photo by Jonathan Oosting)

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s administration moved Monday to reimpose a statewide mask mandate and limits on businesses, setting up a clash with Republicans after the state Supreme Court limited her authority to act unilaterally amid the coronavirus pandemic.

While Whitmer and her allies say her health department has the power to issue orders to protect the public, some conservatives disagree, continuing Michigan’s state of uncertainty — even as coronavirus case counts and hospitalizations increase.

The confusion remains following a Michigan Supreme Court ruling Friday that deemed unconstitutional a 1945 law Whitmer has used to issue 123 orders after the Legislature refused to extend a state of emergency in late April. Thirty of Whitmer’s orders were in place when the ruling came out.

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Days after the ruling, businesses want guidance on whether they still need to limit the number of customers in stores, and doubts remain on whether police can ticket those who refuse to wear masks.

“There’s a lot up in the air,” said Bob Stevenson, executive director  of Michigan Association of Chiefs of Police. 

School and business leaders told Bridge Michigan that policies in place before the court order likely will remain, with masks mandatory for students and customers.

But a host of other issues remain. Here’s a look at the debate. 

What are the latest rules from the Whitmer administration?

Robert Gordon, director of the state Department of Health and Human Services, issued a statewide emergency order Monday that mimics some of the governor’s rescinded orders by placing limits on indoor and outdoor gatherings and events, requires masks be worn in businesses and schools, and requires athletes to wear masks while playing sports. 

The order takes effect immediately and expires on Oct. 30. Gordon argues it carries the force of law and it’s “critically important” that local law enforcement enforce it. 

Why did they issue the rules?

A 4-3 state Supreme Court ruling issued on Friday afternoon determined that Whitmer lacked the authority to issue executive orders in response to the coronavirus pandemic without consent from the Legislature. 

That means that all of the executive orders currently in place — including those to require people wear masks in public spaces, keep social distance, require workplace safety and other protections — would become moot either immediately or at a later date. (More on that later.) 

A patchwork of local rules began to spring up in response to the ruling, and Gordon said a statewide rule is necessary to maintain public safety. 

“We are tired of the virus, but the virus is not tired of us,” Gordon told reporters Monday. 

“Orders remain critical to make clear the shared norms each of us most follow so all of us can remain healthy.”

Why does the administration say it’s legal?

Gordon claimed legal authority under a state law that gives him the power to issue emergency orders to “prohibit the gathering of people for any purpose” and to “establish procedures to be followed during the epidemic to insure continuation of essential public health services and enforcement of health laws” in the case of an epidemic. 

“Our legal authority here is clear,” Gordon said. “It is different than the authority which the Michigan Supreme Court spoke to… the authority delegated by the Legislature to the DHHS director is narrower, it has clearer contours, and it allows for less action. So I think it is a very different authority.”

More than a dozen attorneys at the University of Michigan Law School signed a letter Monday agreeing with Gordon.

Why do some say the orders are illegal?

Some conservative leaders and attorneys questioned whether Gordon’s rule would stand up to a legal challenge.

After all, Gordon is an appointee of Whitmer, and the Supreme Court ruled that she overreached in setting health restrictions without input of the Legislature.

"The highest court in our state couldn’t have been more clear in their ruling – they told [Whitmer] to stop breaking the law by going it alone and to work with the Legislature to tackle the pandemic," Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, R-Clarklake, wrote on Twitter on Monday.

"Clearly she didn’t get the message."

John Bursch, a Caledonia-based attorney and former state solicitor general, said he’s skeptical that courts will allow Whitmer to “keep doing the same thing.”

Katherine Henry, a Hudsonville-based attorney, said the Supreme Court determined Whitmer’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic violated the separation of powers. 

Gordon’s rule is “equally unconstitutional because [he and Whitmer] are members of the executive branch trying to utilize powers that belong to the legislative branch,” she said. 

What will the police enforce?

On Sunday, Attorney General Dana Nessel, a fellow Democrat and ally of Whitmer, announced she will no longer enforce the governor’s orders. But her office said it would enforce health department epidemic orders.

Nessel’s spokesperson said in a statement her decision to not enforce executive orders isn’t binding on law enforcement agencies or state departments “with independent enforcement authority,” adding that it is “her fervent hope” that people will continue to wear masks and socially distance.

Stevenson, the director of police chiefs, told Bridge that police likely will follow Nessel’s lead and may not enforce Whitmer's executive orders but were looking into the health orders.

Even so, businesses still can require masks for entry, Stevenson said, adding that police will enforce business owners’ rights to make decisions for mask wearing in their stores. 

“The big thing is we don’t want anybody getting hurt or injured fighting about wearing masks or not wearing masks,” Stevenson said. “Just respect the business owners.”

When does the Supreme Court ruling go into effect?

That’s also a point of contention. 

Whitmer argues the ruling doesn’t go into effect for at least three more weeks, which is how long parties have to file a motion for reconsideration under Supreme Court rules. 

Speaker of the House Lee Chatfield, R-Levering, told reporters her interpretation is “wrong” and the ruling went into effect immediately, invalidating all of her existing executive orders. 

Attorneys who spoke with Bridge disagreed on whether that’s the case. 

Whitmer asked the Supreme Court to clarify this on Monday. 

What’s happening at the local level?

Local health departments, too, have claimed legal authority to issue orders to protect public health under a different section of Michigan law. 

Since the Supreme Court ruling, officials in Oakland, Ingham, Washtenaw and Wayne counties have indicated they would continue local mask requirements and other safeguards. Other counties, such as Macomb, have indicated they won’t. 

Some lawyers, perhaps unsurprisingly, are also questioning whether county health orders are now legal. 

What does this mean for individuals?

While confusion remains over statewide rules, experts say that if businesses require masks, social distancing and lowered capacity in their stores, police can cite those who violate their rules with trespassing. 

But customers who ditch masks at other venues probably won’t face civil fines or misdemeanors like they would a week ago, in part because some police are as confused as everyone else.

That said, health experts and state leaders (including Republicans) say wearing masks is still important and can decrease the chance of spreading coronavirus, which has sickened nearly 143,000 people and killed more than 7,100 in Michigan since mid-March.

What does this mean for schools?

Under Gordon’s order, masks are required to be worn in schools in most of the state. In Region 6, the northern Michigan region that encompasses Traverse City, masks are recommended. Gordon said these rules are the same as those that Whitmer implemented under her executive orders. 

Even before the new orders, many school officials had told Bridge they plan on continuing as if nothing has changed. 

That said, a little guidance would help, school officials say.

“There’s still much ambiguity about how school districts should continue to function,” said Don Wotruba, executive director of the Michigan Association of School Boards. 

“Our members and the districts they serve need clear guidelines regarding functions that are integral to the operation of our school communities.”

What does this mean for businesses?

Dozens of businesses have been fined up to $7,000 each in recent months by the state’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration (MIOSHA) for violating workplace safety rules related to COVID-19.

Those fines remain, even with the Supreme Court order, Sean Egan, Michigan’s COVID-19 workplace safety director, told Bridge.

The agency derives its authority from a state law that requires employers to provide a hazard-free workplace, not from executive orders, Egan said. 

“The recent Supreme Court decision does not change that.”

Still, business owners are preparing to deal with confused customers.

Many businesses struggled to make customers who resented the mask requirement understand the law, and now they’re working to teach customers that stores have a right to determine whether to keep those requirements despite the Supreme Court order, said Michigan Retailers Association spokesperson Meegan Holland. 

Any other fallout?

You bet.

One of Whitmer’s executive orders that’s now in question allowed governments to bypass Open Meetings Act laws and meet virtually over Zoom or other platforms.

Lansing this week canceled its city meetings because of the Supreme Court ruling, and other local agencies could follow suit.

— Bridge reporters Paula Gardner and Ron French contributed

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M
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 3:18pm

It's obvious that the Republican stooges on the court never gave any thought to the consequences of their vote. They've created a giant mess and put every resident in danger. Wisconsin did the same with disastrous results and now residents in the U.P. are paying the price. How wreckless!

Don
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 9:22am

Remember trump had one of his hate rallies in WI a few weeks ago!!! Every trump goes the infection spikes!!!

Enough BS
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 1:01pm

My head aches. Make it stop. Vote McCormack and Welch for Michigan Supreme Court. YES, We the People in Michigan ELECT these "Justices". We the People do not want Trumpists making these life and death decisions. VOTE!!!

PinD
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 3:52pm

Sorry guv, you're wrong ... just like you were when you wrote the order. No one can make me, as a free citizen of Michigan, wear a mask. There is currently no binding law, order, decree, or anything that says you can.

Paul Jordan
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 12:42pm

You are right. Nobody can make you respect others or value their health by making you wear a mask. President Trump has shown you the way to proclaim your indifference to the well-being of the rest of us.
Way to go...what a man.

Size Matters
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 1:03pm

Question: do you think there should be a law to wear a mask?
Answer: Yes

Michigan legislature, please do your job!

mw
Thu, 10/08/2020 - 8:21am

MCL 333.2253 and MCL 333.2261

When Republicans say "law and order", does that apply to all laws or just the laws that they agree with?

Wm Laffrey
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 4:14pm

I love that last statement from Stevenson...Just respect the business owners. As if those who just needed that nod from the Supreme Court will quietly respect anyone's wishes to be protected.

Renee
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 5:55pm

It would seem that if we all would have followed the CDC’s guidelines and Governor Whitmer’s executive orders concerning wearing masks, Michigan and the entire USA would be better off health wise. Our President and most of his closest aids and family members would not have contracted Covid-19. Maybe the spread of this deadly virus would be on the decline. If our President had mandated for all of us to be safe for each other and wear a mask we would not have panicked we would have thought that he cared about the United States public from the beginning...it’s like he didn’t trust his own power to pull Americans together!

Arianna M
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 1:25pm

But then we wouldn't have GOP pandemonium during the pandemic. Just when we need sane leadership the most, Governor Whitmer has to constantly deal with these knuckleheads in the legislature who try to kneecap her just for the fun of it. She's not perfect, but our family truly appreciates all her thankless efforts as the responsible adult in charge. The legislators only criticize. They don't help govern. Otherwise THEY would pass a mask law, starting in the capitol building. Show some respect for Our elected officials and for US.

Mr.Anderson
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 12:17pm

Ok Professor, explain why, if masks work, that the “cases” have trended upward since July when the mask mandate was instituted?

middle of the mit
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 6:43pm

The Land of Confusion

Is anyone surprised that confusion is rampant now? This has been the GOP's playbook for a loooong time.

They tell us that they are willing to work with the Governor, but when questioned on which EO's they would re instate if things go wrong?

{{{{Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, R-Clarklake, told Bridge on Saturday that Republicans are willing to work with Whitmer but are unlikely to agree on mask requirements or similar business restrictions.

“If you're a gambling man, if you're talking handicapping, it's likely that most of them, if not all [of Whitmer’s orders], will be terminated,” Shirkey said.}}}

I know what that tells me, what does it tell you?

In an earlier article, Bridge and the AP "fact checked" whether or not The President of the United States called the Corona virus a hoax.

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/nessel-wont-enforce-michiga...

Tapper noted that Trump did not call the virus itself a hoax but has "called Democratic and media concerns about it a hoax,” which he also called false. Whitmer thanked him for the “clarifying that” and said Trump “called all the concerns, all the effort - he undermined that. He ridiculed us, and he ridiculed the press."
__________________________________________________________

So........let me see if I understand this correctly. The Wuhan- Chinese flu, that isn't anything more than the flu or cold, isn't what The President and the GOP have been undermining or calling a hoax, it's just the efforts that professional health care workers, journalists and others on the front line are taking ....to inform the public............that's the hoax?

Check! I suppose that is why you go along with journalists marching with peaceful protestors, being shot with hackey sacks, rubber bullets, flash bang grenades and teargas as being just as deserving of it........just like those rioters and looters that they are there covering. This man has called the press the enemy of the people, the party that backs him has his back and calls you fake..........and we STILL have to give them cover? After they did this during a pandemic? Is the pandemic real? IS the press feeding us lies? By pushing both sides, you are not helping the situation at all.

At the same time...we are allowing vigilantes and militia to be normalized and even turned into heros. For shooting people that just want to be treated the same as those vigilantes, while not carrying a weapon.

And you wonder why a video from 1986 is actually prescient?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7FKO5DlV0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF7HkpbLK9s
Genesis - Land of Confusion with lyrics

How about we start making this a country where truth and community have a purpose, instead of a country where might and wealth makes everything legal,moral and right.......as long as it isn't leftists doing it?

Otherwise? This is the only other option.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaDAIuYhpVs
Pantera - Rise + Lyrics

I don't want this to come. I am just reading the atmosphere.

There is an entity that could put this to rest.....if they wanted to. But that would mean they wouldn't get the eyes(clicks) or interviews with those that don't care about us. I find that something that............wouldn't bother me at all. Why would you want clicks from clicks that only care about them being able to shove their freedumbs down your throat.................while complaining about those who were trying to keep you safe during a pandemic because the opposition wouldn't work with you, while those same clicks tell you that you are partisan for NOT spewing THEIR platform......yet...what are the rest of us supposed to believe when every outlet has to give these people breath........lest they are called Partisan?

Grow a spine!

Clearing the Air
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 1:17pm

Maybe Ronna McDaniel can clear up some of the confusion. Maybe like Trump she considers herself an expert now that she too has tested positive. These seem to be the fake experts our Michigan legislature relies on.
The party chief “has been at her home in Michigan since last Saturday,” a spokesperson said.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/02/rnc-chairwoman-mcdaniel-positiv...

Caitlin Smith
Mon, 10/05/2020 - 7:13pm

Dear God. You simply cannot fix stupid. So sad to read how many Michiganders are just downright STUPID!!!!!! Enjoy your Covid! So dumb. Thanks for trying, Gov. Whitmer. Ironically, the majority of us are on your side and want to stay safe. Funny how that works, isn’t it?

Julio
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 7:04am

Enjoy your covid? This seems silly to me. It seems the people embracing the over reaction of this are now angry it is challenge. I think to many have had it too good for so long in this country that they don't have anything else to be productive in, so this is the fight over the right, but what right? To hinder or destroy people's lives that also want to work, be productive citizens and left alone not wanting to participate with others in the drama over all this. And those living this way are not doing so stupidly they are living life with its risks and they seem to be doing fine, our president is case in point.
Is this what makes people feel good now, hurting one another using covid as a weapon to get even with people? Cold and flu season is on our door step and up north has started, just like every year culling the the weak and sickly in our population which is always sad but has been a part of life since the beginning, but we need to use common sense and don't live in fear because we have good medical that years ago pneumonia ended the life of so many, but now is so much more less.
If you have symptoms and are sick stay home or away from others- common sense. It is like every year I don't want to get sick and I don't want others to get me sick, I hate it when people don't have enough sense to stay home and want to spread their love. But please don't stop me from living a productive life and providing for my family an even enjoying the life I have been given when I am not sick. If others don't think that way it's ok with me, but it is also ok if we all don't think the same about this. Practice what seems safe to you and most protective as an individual, just like when you drive a car, or do anything in life with risk, instead of viewing everything as an act of righteousness. I think that is the proper word.

Matt G
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 12:33pm

Nice platitudes. What about vulnerable people who don't have a choice? You're reasoning how others should be treated when you yourself are not part of that group. That is, you're not vulnerable, so you get to sit on your high horse and talk about not wanting to be affected. Meanwhile there's another group that's busy being affected by you demanding "freedom". I guess your freedom is impacting the freedom of others. Hmm, seems like that's where freedom usually ends in this country, but apparently not in your opinion.

It's not about being righteous, it's about treating everyone and every life as though they have value. But apparently allowing preventable diseases to "cull the weak" is a-OK in your book.

Also, you say to stay home if you have symptoms. Have you not gotten the message? 40% of people don't show symptoms but can transmit anyway.
50% of transmissionn is from people without symptoms or before they have symptoms. THATS THE REASON FOR THE MASKS.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-coronavirus-testing-guidance-change

You can't simply rely on people with symptoms to self isolate. That won't do anything.

Personal responsibility means wearing a mask to protect yourself and others.

Note to Seniors
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 1:39pm

Nothing personal, don't be alarmed or listen to the doom and gloom of Democrats. The GOP is just "culling the the weak and sickly in our population", you know, employing "death panels", as they say, to shore up the costs of Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid, preexisting conditions be damned. They want you to believe the GOP is the Pro Life party and the Joe Biden is not a "real" Catholic. Unfortunately for Trump and Trumpists, we KNOW Trump and we KNOW Joe. We KNOW Trump only cares about himself and getting reelected while Joe cares for others.

Anonymous
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 12:32am

The Republicans on the court are just political hacks who could care less about the public. They want chaos and confusion just like their counterparts in Washington. Hopefully they'll all be voted out by 2022!

jan d
Thu, 10/08/2020 - 9:26am

If the Supreme Court had ruled the way you wanted them to then they would be stupid political hacks? Everyone doesn't like every law that is passed. You have to live with what is put before you. If you disagree, you challenge. You don't need to throw a fit and claim those interpreting law are political hacks. Grow up

Whitmer is wrong
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 8:51am

The Michigan Supreme Court decided Whitmer last orders were unconstitutional. That means her orders were unconstitutional immediately after the decision was handed down and none of her unconstitutional orders stand

Disgusted
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 1:46pm

It was clearly a political decision on the part of the Michigan Supreme Court, but then what? Life just goes back to normal? What do you expect of the governor and the legislature? How are they supposed to govern during the pandemic? As a business owner, I can't make a living with all this confusion. At least with the executive orders, we could plan. Now making masks optional means even the safety of our deliveries will be questioned. People like you who celebrate irrational "mask freedom" are irresponsible and just want to drive the last nail into the coffin of our livelihoods. Guess we all go back to hoarding toilet paper. Too bad we all don't have a fully staffed White House bunker where we can "play" president of the USA during this pandemic.

Steve Gold
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 8:56am

In their analysis of the powers of the local health officer, the Great Lakes Justice Center conveniently omits consideration of the final piece of the statute in question: “Emergency procedures shall not be limited to this code.” That section clearly establishes the intent of the Legislature to empower the local health officer to establish a broader range of procedures to control an epidemic than those specifically mentioned. There is no reason to believe mask-wearing could not be such a procedure.

David
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 9:12am

All I ask from government is clear and factual information. I can make my own decisions about how to protect myself, my family, and my neighbors. But government has given us confusing, conflicting, and politicized information, and heavy-handed measures that sometimes make no sense (wear a mask outside while walking the dog in the fresh air?). I don’t need that kind of government.

Matt G
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 12:34pm

Can you point to the executive order that said you have to wear a mask while walking your dog?

God help us!
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 1:56pm

Certainly you would agree that walking your dog outside where there are few people is different from walking your dog in a downtown area where there are many more people in close proximity, right? This summer, I saw far more people walking in close proximity without masks in downtown East Tawas than I saw in downtown Detroit. We all have common sense, but not everyone uses it. We are all victims to the ones who don't use common sense. Can you justify the Trump rallies where packed people didn't wear masks, whether outside or inside? Don't you think the pandemic scourge at the White House now is because of such poor judgment coming from the top? This isn't about confusion. It's about deliberate misinformation and disinformation coming directly from Trump.

Susan Duby
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 9:20am

There is no confusion except by the confused. We the People decide if we want a mask—not government. All businesses can open and their clientele can decide individually. Herd immunity is the only solution with a natural selective virus. Never before during many various US & abroad was a SHUTDOWN! Look at Sweden. All we’ve done is postpone the inevitable and promoted a mentally unhealthy society afraid of their own shadow really.

Matt G
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 12:36pm

But Trump said there would be a vaccine available in the next few weeks. Why are you talking about naturally acquired herd immunity when we will have a vaccine that can give us immunity?

mw
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 1:56pm

Yes, look at Sweden. They have universal healthcare and guaranteed sick leave for all workers. Also, Sweden can order all other people who live in the same household as someone who tests positive to stay home and they will get compensated for salary loss. Sweden has many more safety nets for regular people, laws that protect workers rights when it comes to sick leave and leaves of absence, as well as a universal healthcare system so I agree with you, we should be more like Sweden.

Jennifer E
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 2:00pm

How much more of a taxpayer bailout do you want to pay for to prop up the failed Trump economy?

Don
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 9:21am

How much is Putin paying them republicans to kill off Americans???

Putin's lapdog
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 2:03pm

Done, no real money, just compliments to trump and perhaps a "promise" to pay his $400,000,000 in debt due over the next four years?

Matt
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 9:24am

Fasinating how the so many Leftists react when they're denied the ablity to force their wishes and plans down on "the people" unilarally and must get the acquesence of other bodies (legislature, constitution, courts etc.). Giving proof to the saying, if you scratch a Leftist you'll find an authoritarian. And enough fo this continued drum beat of deadly virus stuff, CURRENTLY in its mutation path, for 95+% of people, the virus carries the symtoms and lethality of a seasonal flu or bad cold. (Notice even in the hyperventalation of "Coronavirus Tracker" it isn't even mentioning deaths anymore?) It is not the same as it was 6 months ago yet Witmer et al still wishes to hold on. Delibretely fanned fear is driving more here than reality.

Matt G.
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 12:58pm

"And enough fo this continued drum beat of deadly virus stuff, CURRENTLY in its mutation path, for 95+% of people, the virus carries the symtoms and lethality of a seasonal flu or bad cold. "

So when are you going to go get infected on purpose? If the odds are so good, why haven't you gone out and gotten natural immunity so that you can help stop the spread? Oh right, it's because the odds are actually really not worth the risk. Even if the IFR is 0.5%, that's 1/200 people dying. Would you play Russian roulette with 1 bullet in 200? That's what you're suggesting.

"It is not the same as it was 6 months ago yet Witmer et al still wishes to hold on."
That's because she actually understand the situation and listens to scientists. Yes, death rates are lower, but lower than "catasrophic" is still awful.

A.R.Eynon
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 10:31am

For all you who bash the Michigan Supreme Court for not following the "ends justifies the means" thinking of Whitmer, try to remember that our State Constitution requires that "All officers, legislative, executive and judicial, before entering upon the duties of their respective offices, shall take and subscribe the following oath or affirmation: I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the constitution of this state, and . . . ." See Article XI § 1.
The US Constitution created our tri-part system of government and that includes the separation of powers provided for in Art. 1, 2 & 3. There never was a valid question about Whitmer's right to violate the separation of powers model of our government as she so gleefully did because "I'm saving lives" aka my ends justify my means. Had she not decided to declare a coup, and make no mistake that is what she did, maybe the Republicans wouldn't be fighting so hard from such drastic positions?
For those of you who don't like our system of government because you want someone to keep you 100% safe at any cost to your fellow citizens, there are plenty of countries to go to. Make sure you don't trespass your way in because they execute people for all sorts of things we don't have to take very seriously.

Matt G
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 12:39pm

Would you support the legislature replacing the exec orders with state law that requires masks?

Reality TV USA
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 2:11pm

I'll be staying home, making popcorn for the next GOP "shitshow" like the debate and the duce's next balcony photo op.

Richard M
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 11:23am

The orders are illegal. Gretchen is a tyrant.

I call BS
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 2:09pm

Yeah, Shirkey and Chatfield are in charge, responsible for everything going forward. No worries, their plan is to do nothing and they are both really good at that. Those loafers can't criticize anymore. Just wondering why they went on vacation on the taxpayers' dime when their reckless GOP colleague contacted the viral "Democrat" hoax.

Paul Jordan
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 12:40pm

For the sake of our elderly, our business people, and our children we need to vote the Republicans out of the legislature on Nov. 3. They are clearly incapable of working for the public good.

Elizabeth Sheppard
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 1:45pm

that tells everyone let's go out and infect people with our germs who cares if they die? As long as I don't have to wear one I'm ok with people getting sick and dying

Arjay
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 4:48pm

I walk every day outside, also bike outside. I do not wear a mask. You do not have to worry about catching the virus from me because I will not let you get near me. In my mind, everyone out there has the virus and is trying to transmit it to me. I will provide a distance of 20 - 25 feet between us. In a 2 hour walk, I might see at the most 5 other people because of when and where I go. If I go into stores, I will wear a mask while in the store, but I will turn around and go the other way in an aisle to avoid most of the people. Everyone has the right to open their business to try to make money. I have the right to choose whether or not I want to visit your business depending on what safety measures you have put in place. Thanks to entrapaneures I can get whatever food or stuff I want delivered to my door. It is not governments job to protect me from the virus. I and only I will determine what if any measures I must take.

Erwin Haas
Tue, 10/06/2020 - 4:59pm

The article addresses the legal shenanigans of the governor and the public health cabal. The more relevant issues should be the obvious failure of the nearly 200 decrees imposed on us-their universal failure and even worsening of the disease itself and the disruption of the economy on citizens' lives and livelihoods.
The initial near total lockdown in March and April led to the initial burst of illnesses and deaths as kids stayed at home, college students and the newly unemployed crowded into fewer and fewer homes and the infected were rammed into nursing homes.
The last 2 months have shown a slow increase in the number of infections in a different demographic, the middle aged and basically healthy accompanied by about a half dozen deaths per day, possibly slowly rising as the number of new infections rise as Whitmer's decrees remain in effect and continue to fail.
Kemp, governor of Georgia was roundly criticized for ignoring the advice of public health "experts" 6-7 weeks ago. I note that new infections and deaths in his state have steadily fallen.
We are better off without the constant disruption of normal life and the promotion of C19 in our state resulting from our governor's misconceptions. She takes her attitudes as being virtuous and true and has gotten away with the imposing her scam under color of unconstitutional decrees.

GrammySammy
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 2:49am

Isn't this the same governor that said we didn't have to wear masks to vote during the primary??? Sorry, we didn't 'elect' the head of the health department, wearing a mask is a mandate, not a law. I will not be wearing one from this day forward. I'm 73 and this is my freedom of choice.

Fred
Wed, 10/07/2020 - 2:32pm

I'm not confused whatsoever. A republican majority on the court, ruled that the emergency management powers as outlined in the state law were unconstitutional. Not that the governor had done anything unlawful. It is an opinion, a ruling, which can be overturned and addressed in other ways. I will continue to support businesses that look out for the health and welfare of me and my family, and friends. Those that don't I will refuse to patronize. I will also encourage everyone else I know to follow suit.

R.L.
Fri, 10/09/2020 - 9:00am

That is such a sacrifice to have to endure minutes or an hour of a mask. I know a number of people who wear them all day. Just for a short time think of others. Please wear a mast when in a store. Peace R.L.

Crom
Mon, 10/12/2020 - 1:56pm

There is no confusion. Both Whitmer and MDHHS were named as defendants in the lawsuit [see page 5 PDF] so both were overruled by the Supreme Court. Their power to issue breathing restraint orders against the public is over. You don’t have to follow their orders anymore. There is no confusion. Whitler’s infringing on the rights of the citizens of Michigan is over. https://courts.michigan.gov/Courts/MichiganSupremeCourt/Clerks/Recent%20...