On day he’s impeached, President Trump implies John Dingell may be in hell

Some Republicans say U.S. President Donald Trump should apologize for implying that deceased former U.S. Rep. John Dingell, D-Dearborn, may be in hell. (Bridge photo by Jonathan Oosting)

BATTLE CREEK — President Donald Trump lashed out at Democrats here on Wednesday night as the U.S. House took a historic vote to impeach him, singling out Rep. Debbie Dingell of Michigan and implying her late husband may be in hell.

“Maybe he’s looking up — I don’t know,” Trump said of former U.S. Rep. John Dingell, a Dearborn Democrat who died in February at the age of 92 and had been the longest-serving member of Congress in U.S. history.

The comment sparked controversy but was met by a mixed response in the Kellogg Arena, where a capacity crowd of 5,500 supporters gathered for a Trump re-election campaign rally at the same time the House was voting to impeach the Republican president in Washington D.C.

Related: Welcome to Michigan, President Trump. About that economy you promised …

Trump criticized Congresswoman Dingell for supporting impeachment after she had previously thanked him for granting what he called “A+” memorial and funeral honors for her husband. “I didn’t give him the B treatment, or the C or the D. I could have," he said.

“Mr. President, let’s set politics aside,” Dingell, a Dearborn Democrat, tweeted in response. “My husband earned all his accolades after a lifetime of service. I’m preparing for the first holiday season without the man I love. You brought me down in a way you can never imagine and your hurtful words just made my healing much harder.”

State Rep. Aaron Miller, a Sturgis Republican who attended the Trump rally, said he thought the president’s comment about the late John Dingell was “unacceptable.”

“Not a good thing to say at all,” Miller told Bridge Magazine. “Unfortunately, I heard some people laughing.”

The president's comment also drew swift condemnation from several federal lawmakers, who spoke out on Twitter. 

U.S. Rep. Fred Upton, a St. Joseph Republican who voted against impeachment Wednesday night, said Trump should apologize. 

“I’ve always looked up to John Dingell - my good friend and a great Michigan legend,” Upton tweeted. “There was no need to 'dis' him in a crass political way. Most unfortunate and an apology is due.”

Trump's attack was “reprehensible” said U.S. Sen. Gary Peters,D-Bloomfield Township.  "Shameful,” said U.S. Rep. Haley Stevens, D-Rochester Hills, who noted John Dingell was a devout Catholic and World War II Veteran. Attacking him “demeans you and your office,” U.S. Rep. Elissa Slotkin, D-Holly, said in a tweet directed to Trump. 

"Debbie, we are here for you," added independent Rep. Justin Amash of Cascade Township. "So many people loved and respected John. Praying for you and your family."

The president's jab at the Dingells punctuated a rally that was decorated with holiday themes but wasn’t especially jolly. 

Speaking on a stage flanked by Christmas trees topped with red “Make America Great Again” hats, Trump repeatedly criticized Democrats who that night made him the third president in U.S. history to be impeached.

“It doesn’t really feel like we’re being impeached,” Trump the enthusiastic crowd inside his “Merry Christmas” rally while more supporters -- and protesters –  stood outside in 14-degree weather. 

“The radical left in Congress is consumed with hatred and envy and rage,” Trump said, speaking as the U.S. House approved its first article of impeachment charging him with abuse of power for pressuring a foreign government to investigate political rivals.

“This lawless and partisan impeachment is a political suicide march for the Democratic Party,” Trump argued while House Democrats approved a second article of impeachment charging him with obstructing the congressional investigation. 

But Trump found reason to celebrate: After roughly 50 minutes on stage, he learned that every House Republican voted against impeachment. The articles were approved with support from Democrats and Amash, who left the Republican Party in July and represents Battle Creek in Congress. 

“The Republican Party has never been so affronted, but they’ve never been so united as they are now,” Trump said, predicting backlash against the impeachment will help him in the 2020 election. The GOP-led Senate is not expected to convict him on the impeachment charges. 

Fans brave bitter cold, bad roads

Trump supporters huddled outside the Kellogg Arena ahead of the rally — some since Tuesday night — wearing winter coats, gloves and headbands under their red Make America Great Again hats. At least one vendor was selling Trump-themed Snuggies for warmth. 

“I told myself long ago that if he ever got anywhere close to here, I was going,” said Julie Dodge, a 54-year-old manufacturing worker from Vicksburg who had never attended a presidential rally before. “My 401(k) right now loves President Trump.”

Dodge rolled her eyes at the prospect of congressional impeachment, saying she’s “never ever seen the Democrat Party so full of hate” and would rather see the parties work together on issues like infrastructure.

“Have you seen the roads in Michigan? We need a lot of help,” Dodge said before explaining that she does not support Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s push to fix crumbling roads and bridges by raising state fuel taxes.

Some 5,500 supporters greeted President Donald Trump at a rally in Battle Creek as the U.S. Congress was voting to make him the third president in history to be impeached. (Bridge photo by Jonathan Oosting)

Trump used his speech later that night to criticize Whitmer, who won election last year on a pledge to “fix the damn roads” but faced stiff opposition in the Republican-led Legislature when she proposed a 45-cent fuel tax increase to fund repairs. 

“She’s not fixing those potholes,” Trump said. 

“I know your previous governor was a Republican, but I was not a big fan of his,” Trump said, referring to former Gov. Rick Snyder, who did not endorse him in the 2016 election. “But I’m not a big fan of the one that can’t fix the potholes” either, he said. 

Trump also campaigned on a pledge to improve infrastructure, but bipartisan negotiations on a potential $2 trillion federal spending plan broke down amid congressional investigations of the president’s conduct.  

The impeachment hearing is “a waste of time,” said Jacob O’Connell, a 19-year-old community college student in Battle Creek. “If he would have actually done it, I think they would have caught him much sooner.”

Trump is “just getting things done, more than what Obama or Bush did,” said O’Connell, who is preparing to vote in his first presidential election. “The economy is much better.”

During his speech, Trump touted what he called “greatest economy in the history of this country,” and promised even more jobs if re-elected as president. 

Amash, Dems back impeachment

Trump’s speech began just as the House approved articles of impeachment, mostly along party lines. Two Democrats voted against impeaching him for abuse of power, while a third joined them in opposing impeachment for obstruction of Congress. 

The articles charge the president with pressuring Ukraine to launch an investigation that could damage former Vice President Joe Biden, a potential general election opponent in the 2020 presidential election, and for obstructing the congressional impeachment probe. 

All Michigan Democrats supported impeachment, including Stevens and Slotkin, two first-term lawmakers who represent swing districts Trump won in 2016.  They were joined by Amash.

“President Donald J. Trump has abused and violated the public trust by using his high office to solicit the aid of a foreign power, not for the benefit of the United States of America, but instead for his personal and political gain,” Amash said during a floor speech ahead of the vote. “It is our duty to impeach him.” 

Doing nothing is “not an option,” said Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Detroit. “Looking away from these crimes against our country is not an option. This is about protecting the future of our nation and our democracy from corruption, abuse of power, criminal coverups and bribery.”

While Trump drew thousands to Battle Creek -- filling the arena while more supporters stood outside -- voters supporting impeachment rallied Tuesday night in cities across Michigan, including Detroit, Lansing, Grand Rapids and Flint. 

“There’s a lot of anger in this state because of what the president has done,” Michigan Democratic Party Chairwoman Lavora Barnes said Wednesday ahead of Trump’s rally. "Folks took the streets last night to show their anger, to shout ‘impeach him.’ I’m excited by each and every one of them turning out to vote in November.”

Expect more Trump in Michigan

Vice President Mike Pence rallied with supporters in Saginaw Township earlier Wednesday before joining the president in Battle Creek, touting the administration's efforts to crack down on illegal immigration, cut taxes, renegotiate NAFTA and slash business regulations despite what he called "unprecedented opposition" from Democrats in Washington D.C.

The Saginaw Township rally was part of a statewide blitz from the Trump campaign that also included a Tuesday night event with Lara Trump in Sterling Heights and culminated with the president's speech in Battle Creek. Combined, they rallied in three of the 12 counties that Trump flipped in 2016 and he will likely need again to win the state in 2020.

“The president realizes the No. 1 rule of politics: You keep what you won,” Michigan Republican Party Chairwoman Laura Cox told reporters in Battle Creek. 

It was Trump’s second campaign visit to Michigan this year following a March rally in Grand Rapids. Pence traveled the state on a bus tour two weeks ago. 

“We will be back in Michigan many times, and we’re going to hit different parts of the state over the course of the next 11 months,” Tim Murtaugh, director of communications for Trump’s national campaign, told Bridge Magazine. 

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Kevin Grand
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 7:31am

Mr. Oostling should take a lesson from Paul Harvey and provide readers "...with the rest of the story".

That comment Pres. Trump made came during a part of the speech when he said that all of the democrats whom gladly accepted his donations before being elected President and later claimed that his actions were criminal (EXACTLY what was the specific crime he is being accused of violating), were not so quick nor eager to return those donations.

If the courage from those democrats matched their convictions, this should have been done long before yesterday's lopsided impeachment vote.

I'm certain that Mr. Oostling has a very good reason for such biased reporting.

And speaking of biased reporting, is there any particular reason why these aren't being widely mentioned when talking about this story overall?



What was Hunter Biden's knowledge/experience in that industry again?



David Waymire
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 12:10pm

Why should they return his contributions? Was there some expectation that they would kowtow to the king forever? That he bought them lock stock and barrel, forever? He GAVE contributions freely. HE is the one who said he expected something for his donations -- usually to benefit his personal bottom line, clearly never to benefit average men and women in this nation.

Kevin Grand
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 6:52pm

Not even close, Mr. Waymire.

However given the antics of the democrats during yesterday's "solemn" vote (see link below), one would think that anything to do with Pres. Trump would verboten and that they wouldn't want that "filthy lucre" in their respective campaign chests.


Don't the democrats have an image that they want to uphold in front of their base?

middle of the mit
Sun, 12/29/2019 - 3:00am

Didn't the President of the United States give those donations to Democrats when He himself was and or affiliated himself with Democrats before he figured out it was easier to dupe you proles into electing him to the highest office in the land?

You fell for it.........not us.

And as solemn votes go, Do you conservatives not believe in the constitution anymore? Do you know or understand what Emoluments are? They are being violated EVERY DAY!

Where is the rule of law when it comes to WHITE COLLAR CRIME in the Republican party?

It doesn't exist.

That's your problem.

Otherwise industry would do what you say it does and Michigan and the US in general would have NO SUPERFUND SITES.


Eat it! OHHH no don't do that!!! You might get poisoned!

But hey! If it is a superfund site........you don't have to blame a private company or individual!


Isn't that CONVENIENT? (in my best church lady voice) OR could it be SATAN!?!?!?!

My bet?


Marilynn Bachorik
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 12:13pm

This is some outstanding rationalization and excuse making for Trump's vile comments about Reps. John and Debbie Dingell. Well, done, Mr. Grand.

Sat, 12/21/2019 - 12:50am

How sensitive you are. I appreciate a dark sense of humor. When I read the headlines I was shocked (i should of known better, the msms version of events never accurately represents the video footage). I look up the video and see him being so serious about Debbie, then throws a quick quip joke. I laughed. Everyone in the room laughed. It’s obvious he is light hearted it’s obvious he isn’t saying it to be hateful.
You all should lighten up. Quit being so miserable and maybe you’d admit it was funny too

middle of the mit
Sun, 01/05/2020 - 9:59pm

Is the HIT on the Iranian offical just a "dark sense of humor"?
Isn't time such a horrible thing?

Thu, 12/19/2019 - 1:02pm

Hunter Biden had no business being on Burisma's board, and the fact that it was legal shows that the depth to which graft is accepted within the American government. What you should really find shocking then, is that even with multiple legal channels available, the Trump spawn and everyone associated with them have been illegally enriching themselves from the moment their sun-downing racist father took office. If you want to hammer Biden's idiot failson, then you damn well better be willing to go to the mat about Jared, Ivanka, Don Jr, and Eric (in addition to literally every self-dealing ghoul he put in his cabinet)

And in case you'd like to see that all laid out for you in an easy to digest format, here's a helpful primer:


Along with all the sources so you can't immediately claim fake news and ignore it:


john chastain
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 1:41pm

Common Kevin, Russian propaganda (Tass), disingenuous tabloid nonsense (daily mail), a willful misinterpretation of Biden’s actions in Ukraine using YouTube & a ap news article that doesn’t remotely support the contention that Biden’s actions were corrupt. You might as well have linked to the daily stormer, they got lots of pro Trump stuff to support his many lies and deception. I expect that like many of Trumps supporters you are well aware of Trumps many crimes and misdemeanors. They simply don’t matter to the true believers. Trump bragged about shooting someone down in NYC and retaining support, this is the constitutional equivalent & it doesn’t matter to them either.

Kevin Grand
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 7:22pm

I'll tell you what, Mr. Chastain; if you want to invoke the "Russian Collusion Delusion" defense, then you can certainly cite sources to refute my links above.

Those "crimes and misdemeanors" the democrats love to pine about? Curiously, the House didn't feel like including anything of substance during yesterday's vote.

And speaking of yesterday's vote, you do know that the democrats won't have anything to show for all of their effort if they won't send the articles over to the Senate for trial.

That IS how the process works.

They won't get a participation trophy for just showing up and casting a vote.

Fri, 12/20/2019 - 9:44pm

After former combat Marine, Robert Mueller declared in his report that he would not pursue collusion because the word did not have have much of a legal standing. Attorney General Barr then, without having read his report, declared the President innocent of all charges, including a charge of collusion that was never made.
That being the case, I referenced Robert Mueller as a combat Marine as a way to compare his commitment to our country to the draft dodger in the White House. To the extent that he was scouted by the Phillys, The Donald was an exceptional ballplayer. No problem with a bone spur while running around on the ball field. Only when he was asked to defend our country, did he become physically unable to participate.
But then General John Kelly put it quite well, stating that he, Kelly, earned his spurs on the battlefield while Trump got his from a doctor.
Lastly, when you refer to the Democrats as a political party, it is spelled with a capital D, not lower case.

Thu, 12/19/2019 - 8:31am

Don't bother criticizing Trump for his behavior. The people who are actually responsible for it are his supporters. They voted him in, encourage him, attack anyone who criticizes him, and refuse to listen to anyone who so much as suggests he might be wrong about anything.

Sick of Stupid
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 1:56pm

Was Mr. Dingell buried? In the ground? Six Feet under? How else could he look upon anyone accept to look up? Mr. Trump as all of us does not know, how could he, after all he is not a god. People like you who have no sense of humor are sad. Enjoy life for one day you too will be looking up at those who loved you and they will be looking down at you!

Abe Bubush
Fri, 12/20/2019 - 7:25am

Was that an attempt to use your 3rd grade education to rationalize yet another petulant juvenile insult from the POS POTUS?
That's about as funny as opioid addiction, which may explain both of your attitudes.

Fri, 12/20/2019 - 9:56am

This is supposed to be the President of the United States. What has happened to common humanity. This man says anything to get cheap laughs, no matter who it hurts. Take a look at the national news. Michigan for the last 10 years has been on the front page for all of the wrong reasons (poisoning water in Flint, poor educational system, poverty rates above the national average, and citizens who are willing to go to stupid rally's because they think this guy is funny). Sad.

middle of the mit
Sun, 01/05/2020 - 10:08pm

Aren't all good people supposed to go up to their maker?

Therefore after their death, immediately, they would go up.

Unless they are bound for hell.

Get it?

If you don't, at least I will understand why you don't............along with a million other Michiganders.


Do you understand now?

Fri, 12/20/2019 - 8:50am

Oh, yeah. We would have much more preferred to have Hillary as our president...!

Fri, 12/20/2019 - 9:09pm

The fact is that the American people did prefer Hillary for President. If I remember correctly, she won the popular vote by three million votes.

Thu, 12/26/2019 - 10:31am

Excalibur, If you look at the number of states where the MAJORITY of people voted for Trump versus hillary you'll see a huge MAJORITY were won by Trump. I believe it was less than 20 states were won by her. Clearly the MAJORITY of people in the MAJORITY of states voted for Trump. If it weren't for the Electoral College the huge populations of California and New York would have negated the will of the MAJORITY of the rest of the United States making them irrelevant. Perhaps this is why the democrats now want to eliminate the Electoral College. By controlling Cali and New York they effectively would control every one else. The founding Fathers realized this and wisely created the EC to TRULY reflect the will of the MAJORITY.

Sun, 01/05/2020 - 10:50pm

When all is said and done, despite juggling data to misleadingly suggest otherwise, Hillary won the popular vote.
Having read the proceedings of the Constitutional Convention in 1787, I find no information indicating that the delegates felt that the Electoral College would express the will of the majority of voters. Please enlighten me because the numbers in the Trump- Clinton election prove otherwise.

Thu, 12/19/2019 - 9:04am

Oh, if only there were a hell. (sigh) Unfortunately, the king and his nobles live long lives, leave behind devastating legacies and then just die. But the king always used the church to terrorize the serfs. DT and his minions represent the worst of tribal rule. The gap between our technological and social advancement is growing wider and wider.

Fri, 12/20/2019 - 10:14pm

You are offended by joke about the dead, but don't seem to mind when a scripted joke at the expense of 13 year old during a hearing attacking his father that is nationally/world broadcast be made and entered in the official Congressional record.
The reality you seem to miss is that a 13 year old is a difficult and impressionable period, a person that has died doesn't care about a joke and they will not be affected.

Thu, 12/19/2019 - 9:28am

I have come across people like Trump many times in my life, and know the best approach is to stay away from them. Trump loves the drama, creates fear and anxiety for people and only cares about himself. I don't find his rhetoric entertaining like some do, but this is what the Republican Party has degraded to in Michigan.

Trump is a man without a shred of care or compassion. To make fun of a well regarded man such as Dingell, and to disparage him in front of a crowd of your supporters is who Trump is. When a man like this shows you who they are believe him!! I find those Republican politicians who have supported this man without regard to who Trump is repugnant. They are the very ones willing to sink to Trumps level of behavior when they think it is beneficial to them.

Wake up Michiganders, this is a man who separates families, cheats on his wife, plays fast and loose with the security of America for his own benefit, talks like an 8 year old and insults widows. You all need to grow up!!

Thu, 12/19/2019 - 12:29pm

I agree Bernadette - the Republicans will back this so called President no matter how low he sinks. First John McCain, now John Dingell. When will the rest of MI wake up and see him for what he is??

Fri, 12/20/2019 - 8:47am

Good moniker...!

Sick of Stupid
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 1:57pm

Was Mr. Dingell buried? In the ground? Six Feet under? How else could he look upon anyone accept to look up? Mr. Trump as all of us does not know, how could he, after all he is not a god. People like you who have no sense of humor are sad. Enjoy life for one day you too will be looking up at those who loved you and they will be looking down at you! maybe..... I don't know LOL

Thu, 12/19/2019 - 10:14am

While Mr. Trump's comment (yet again) demonstrated that there is no low below which he will not go, I was incredibly disturbed by the reaction of the crowd -- my fellow Michiganders. I listened the clip multiple time because I could not believe my ears. The laughing, whistling, hooting and hollering by the crowd supporting this comment was egregious. These are sincerely asked question to the supporters: "Have you no sense of decency?" Have you no sense of humanity or empathy? Have you ever lost someone you held dear? The crowd reaction was stomach -turning and heart-sickening. Perhaps this article can explain that reaction because I sure can't: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelty-is-the-poi...

john chastain
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 1:49pm

Rose, watch a World wrestling federation show and you’ll see where this comes from. Its entertainment for the true believers and just as false and dishonest as the “wrestling” matches are. Or better yet consider the bread and circuses of Rome, Trump as Nero and his supporters as the mob baying for the blood of Christians, except their the mob now and their fellow citizens are in the arena. This to is humanity, sad eh.

Sick of Stupid
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 1:53pm

Was Mr. Dingell buried? In the ground? Six Feet under? How else could he look upon anyone accept to look up?

john chastain
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 9:21pm

Sick of stupid? Only when it tries to pass as humor & posts monotonously repetitious nonsense. Kind of like one of those Russian trolls Trump is so fond of. I have a sense of humor & Trump isn’t that funny, stupid though, you should be sick of him eh.

mary therese lemanek
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 11:08am

Trump is incapable of finishing more than 2 sentences without uttering a lie or an offensive coment. It is a waste of time and energy to report on and natter about this foolish man. Imagine how little there would be to say if we focused only on the good things he has done....

Thu, 12/19/2019 - 11:21am

How very disappointing. I have held the Bridge is higher regard than the Enquirer in the past. However, it appears that you have joined the ranks of the destructive hate-filled media, who are fueling so much anger and violence in this country. Suggesting that “looking up” implies that the late Congressman Dingell is in hell - It is my understanding he was buried when he died and I have never heard the phrase “looking down” from the grave. Unless of course you are in hell and looking up from below the grave. And where were the President’s comments about the negative impact of impeachment on our form of government - that was gibberish to you - seriously?! Nothing the President said was positive and worth reporting? He has never claimed to be a politician and things he says are not always in his best interest, but does that justify news media expanding on the negatives and increasing the level of anger and violence in the US?

john chastain
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 9:44pm

Yep, nothing the fraudulent President said at one of his Nuremberg style rallies was positive, worth repeating, perhaps. But only as a reminder who is really stoking the anger, hatred and violence in the US. & it ain’t the “media” unless you mean the fox propaganda network or the Breitbart wannabes whipping up the true believers for Trump. You can complain about the negative effect impeaching Putin’s puppet is having on the nation but I’ll focus on Trumps collusion with America’s adversaries for his personal fun and profit. The impeachment may be about Ukraine but behind the plot to shift attention is Putin’s Russia and Trump is a willing partner. Oh and the violence? That wasn’t media with their tiki torch’s in Charlottesville, those were fans of Trumps , you know some of the “good people” he likes to talk about.

Thu, 12/19/2019 - 11:52am

I don’t know why ever.yone is so so against our President other than the fact that Hellary was supposed to win and she didn’t. Look at all he has accomplished in the first three years in office. Record stock markets, record lows in unemployment including minorities, increased money in people’s pockets, illegal border crossings declining, renegotiated trade deals, strengthened military, foreign countries contributing more of a fair share toward mutual defense, and on,and on. I am excitedly looking forward to more of the same after the 2020 elections.

As for the Dingell comment, I sat at a table with “big John” at a volunteer luncheon 20 years ago and all I could think at the time was this man is the poster child for term limits. Some times you just have to let it go.

john chastain
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 9:58pm

Trump hasn’t accomplished much of anything since his election. Unless you count having one of the most dysfunctional and corrupt federal administrations in history. Its amazing how easy Trump lies and people believe him. Well maybe not so amazing since lies and exaggeration is the only thing he has to sell. You can keep pretending the economy is Trumps success but it isn’t, the current upswing was years in the making and Trump is mucking it up as I write. But don’t worry it will be years before the bill comes due from Trumps stupidity and it will come due. Regarding the stock market, unless you’re a serious investor that’s meaningless. Unemployment down, with a low wage service economy and people holding multiple jobs just to get by that ain’t nothing to brag about. The rest of your fantasy isn’t worth spit and falls under even a superficial examination. Good luck with your stocks though, if you have any.

Dick Albright
Fri, 12/20/2019 - 10:01pm

The U of M has a great syllabus beginning with Econ-101. You might consider re-taking that class.

Thu, 12/19/2019 - 2:13pm

How of them were Paid Actors ! Seems if you look hard at his alleles you see the same people in CA, X, FL, Al......

John S.
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 2:36pm

The function of jokes directed at others is to elevate the status of the joke teller relative to the target of the joke. When Trump mocks Gold Star parents, disabled persons, and now Debbie Dingell (a widow) it is a signal of his own enormous insecurity. Presidents are high ranking individuals. Typically, they will only poke fun at formidable political opponents or themselves. Debbie is only one of 435 members of the House.

Thu, 12/19/2019 - 4:22pm

Ugh. He's such a classless tool. What a juvenile imbecile he is...says a lot for the folks out there egging him on, too. Great display of 'Christian' values the GOP is always trotting out. Oh yeah, and Trump was treated worse than Jesus...please. Ugh.

Thu, 12/19/2019 - 4:34pm

Trump's misery at the hands of Democrats is at an end, at least for a while. Next up is Senate Republicans' misery at the hands of Democrats.

If Senate Republicans don't at least provide some semblance of a fair trial, Democrats will ravage Republican Senator incumbents in 2020 on this issue.

The game is going to get more interesting I think.

Sat, 12/21/2019 - 1:09am

Should we use Adam Schiff's 'impeachment' investigation as the standard of what constitutes 'fair'?

I wonder what you think of the Courts decision to hear the President request on a ruling of whether the Office of the President is required to submit to any and every subpoena issues by the House of Representatives? Do you think if a subpoena was issued to you should have the right to appeal to the Courts verify the validity of the subpoena before being prosecuted for not providing the requested information?

To be fair
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 5:43pm

I would defer to what Satan says.

Thu, 12/19/2019 - 5:47pm

Repugnants claim Dems hate Trump. Au contraire, we pity him and his sycophants. Moreover, the truth is that you just blindly LOVE him. He's your GOD, demigod. (ha ha) What will you poor suckers do when he is gone whether now or in 5 years?????? Oh yeah, we saw that play out in Jonestown.

bill shell
Tue, 03/31/2020 - 10:14am

another really stupid reply by someone who has been educated by the public school system. If a demonrat ever gets into the oval office again, we will end up with just the same thing that DR. half Whit is doing. spend , send, spend on everyone who can not think for themselves, like you!
If you work, how will you feel when 80 percent of your check is taken to provide for open borders, medicare for all and every free thing in the USA for ll the losers, like you! Country needs to be run like a business. As a business it needs to fire people like you who can not understand the bigger picture.

Prince Velveeta
Thu, 12/19/2019 - 5:50pm

If he was in congress that long, he's GOT to be in hell.

Fri, 12/20/2019 - 10:00am

Why, you don't like things like the Constitution, free and fair elections, government by the people, accountability or is it corruption that you abhor, Citizens United, lobbyists, voter suppression, and self-serving treasonous charlatans like Trump? Our government could be better, if we the people want it to be.

Thu, 12/19/2019 - 7:35pm

So … when did Democrats start believing in hell for stupid comments to matter to you? Sounds like made up outrage.

Fri, 12/20/2019 - 5:14am

The standard Republican response when Trump does something they'd consider reprehensible if their family members, friends, church members, workplace associates, and especially Democrats did it: either encourage Trump to keep doing it, or go "tut tut", which has the same effect.

Fri, 12/20/2019 - 9:49am

Finally a Governor for Michiganders. Slow and steady wins the race. I hope everyone recognizes that the women politicians have the class to move America forward.

I include Whitmer, Dingell and Pelosi in this description. They are introducing a new way of "being" in a very polarized country and don't need to blame people, call people names, dishonor themselves by manipulating elections.

My hope for 2020 is that Michigan can show up on the national front pages because of the good we do, not because of a president holding a rally, insulting and hurting a grieving politician, and a bunch of citizens laughing and clapping. Put your energy into the future.

Fri, 12/20/2019 - 10:05am

I would hate to lose his leadership in Michigan, but Dan Kildee would be an excellent Democrat candidate for President. He is a hardworking honest empathetic upstanding veteran who cares about ALL Americans, a REAL MAN, everything Trump is not. Would love to see the two debate on national tv.

Fri, 12/20/2019 - 1:37pm

Any person who has never asked God or whoever for forgiveness should not consider themselves a Christian. His moral compass has no needle. Look at the entire person when you judge and vote. Peace R.L.

Fri, 12/20/2019 - 1:38pm

Any person who has never asked God or whoever for forgiveness should not consider themselves a Christian. His moral compass has no needle. Look at the entire person when you judge and vote. Peace R.L.

Fri, 12/20/2019 - 8:01pm

Trump could 't be elected dog catcher in NYC because they've been stuck with him for 73 years. His business plan includes 4 bankruptcies which he uses to avoid paying his creditors...including contractors and laborers. He did the same thing in Atlantic City after promising them they wouldn't ever have to spend a dollar on his casino. He left his contractors stiffed when the casino went broke. Who refers to his daughter as a "good piece of ass" on national radio? We know him to be the illiterate carney barker that he is. It's naive to believe that there is any contribution he brings to the table except as the broken clock that is correct twice a day. Look to all of his good for nothing , entitled children to know what kind of man he is...a user and abuser. He learned that from his own father, Fred, who was taken to court for civil rights violations in his Queens rentals. Since he can't be buried in Arlington, it will have to be in a more accessible spot. There will be lines of people he stiffed in NY who want to dance on his grave.

Fri, 12/20/2019 - 8:01pm

Trump could 't be elected dog catcher in NYC because they've been stuck with him for 73 years. His business plan includes 4 bankruptcies which he uses to avoid paying his creditors...including contractors and laborers. He did the same thing in Atlantic City after promising them they wouldn't ever have to spend a dollar on his casino. He left his contractors stiffed when the casino went broke. Who refers to his daughter as a "good piece of ass" on national radio? We know him to be the illiterate carney barker that he is. It's naive to believe that there is any contribution he brings to the table except as the broken clock that is correct twice a day. Look to all of his good for nothing , entitled children to know what kind of man he is...a user and abuser. He learned that from his own father, Fred, who was taken to court for civil rights violations in his Queens rentals. Since he can't be buried in Arlington, it will have to be in a more accessible spot. There will be lines of people he stiffed in NY who want to dance on his grave.

Sat, 12/21/2019 - 3:54pm

I would like to know how many of the commentators feigning outrage at President Trump's quip actually have sufficient religious faith to believe in heaven and hell.

Sun, 12/22/2019 - 8:14am

Traitor tRUMP is on very SICK non Human!!!!