Feds back Michigan businesses in suit against Whitmer’s coronavirus orders

“It is crystal clear that this challenge is coming directly from the White House, which is ignoring the risk of a second wave of the virus and pushing too quickly to roll back public health guidelines,” Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said late Friday. (Photo courtesy of the governor's office)

LANSING — The U.S. Department of Justice announced late Friday that it is backing a lawsuit against Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, arguing she “imposed arbitrary and irrational limits” on businesses to fight COVID-19.

The move comes one month after U.S. Attorney General William Barr directed federal prosecutors to review state and local policies “to ensure that civil liberties are being protected” during the coronavirus pandemic. 

Whitmer, in a statement, attributed the legal intervention to President Donald Trump, who she and several other governors have clashed with during the public health crisis. 

“It is crystal clear that this challenge is coming directly from the White House, which is ignoring the risk of a second wave of the virus and pushing too quickly to roll back public health guidelines,” Whitmer said. 

The suit, filed in federal court in late April on behalf of several businesses operating in Michigan, attempts to “define the limit of state’s police power” and alleges that Whitmer violated the constitutional rights of business owners by forcing them to close through executive orders while placing 10 million residents “under house arrest.”

It’s among a slew of lawsuits challenging various orders Whitmer has issued to slow the spread of the virus, which has killed 5,406 Michigan residents since the state’s first confirmed diagnosis in mid-March. 

“I have no doubt about the governor’s good intentions, but the executive orders arbitrarily discriminate by allowing some businesses to operate while similar businesses must close or limit their operations — and if they refuse, they face fines and possible jail time,” Matthew Schneider, U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan, said in a statement. 

“Under the Governor’s Orders, it’s ok to go to a hardware store and buy a jacket, but it’s a crime to go inside a clothing store and buy the identical jacket without making an appointment,” he continued. “That’s arbitrary.”

Schneider and Assistant Attorney General Eric Dreiband are heading up the Department of Justice’s review of state and local pandemic policies. The DOJ’s action, called a “statement of interest,” is akin to a friend-of-the-court brief, and allows the Justice Department to weigh in with its position in pending cases. 

Andrew Birge, U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Michigan, helped prepare the new legal brief in the suit against Whitmer, which was filed by Signature Sotheby’s International Realty,  Midwest Carwash Association and other firms. 

“It is hard to conceive of a rational basis for permitting retail establishments, including marijuana dispensaries, to welcome customers who will interact directly with employees and likely come into contact with other customers while prohibiting car washes from providing exterior washes purchased online with the customer separated from the employee by a closed car window,” prosecutors said in a court brief. 

Whitmer, in her late Friday statement, said that she knows the importance of “getting people back to work” and reopening the economy, noting she has already loosened restrictions on construction, manufacturing, real estate and retail, which she allowed to re-open by appointment in most of the state and more widely in northern Michigan. 

“But the worst thing we can do is open up in a way that causes a second wave of infections and death, puts health care workers at risk, and wipes out all the progress we’ve made,” the governor said. “We have absolute confidence in the legal authority I have exercised to protect the people of Michigan.

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abre bubush
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 6:36am

By signing onto this sad suit, the President and his sidekick Barr make it evident they feel the need to distract from the fact that they fell flat on their face addressing the pandemic and are seeking political points in any way possible.

Neal W
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 9:06am

It doesn't do any good to respond to any of these comments because they are all slanted to the left. And will sensor any other comments.

andrew
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 4:04pm

The governor has been continuously providing citizens with medical, scientific, and economic information, DOING HER JOB, while the president has dismantled and subverted the agencies-such as CDC-from making vital guidelines available. You need to pay attention and use your head!

Anonymous
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 8:32pm

The country is on fire and Trump is golfing. I'm so done. I'm literally holding my nose from the stink until November.

Karen
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 9:41pm

Is putting covd patients in nursing homes part of doing her job? It is still going on. I hope your not ok with that, because anyone with a loved one there isnt. Thats disgusting and evil.

AnnetteRamage
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 10:50pm

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Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:15pm

Why would you post something so childish?

dat
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 1:29pm

please, provide the data the governor is using? she talks of it often and i can see it nowhere. thanks! also, the CDC (maybe represents the "science" keeps changing their guidelines). if you have the science can you also please provide it? otherwise, i am unclear of the "science" that the governor keeps saying she is studying. I would love to see why car washes are dangerous. i usually back away from anyone with a water hose in their hand!

Bob Dunn
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 8:27pm

Why did you respond given your statement?

Says you
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 11:35am

What are you gonna do about that?

Dvora
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 12:45pm

What is your evidence & what is it's source?

JW
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 11:32am

These businesses have suffered enough. Thank goodness Trump is in the office to support them and the American working people. He started working on protecting us in January by blocking the travel from China while the Dems were opposing this ban by calling him xenophobic and attacked him in every way possible. In essence, he was on top of it before they even took it seriously.

David W
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 1:11pm

What world do you live in?

Gazelda
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 7:45pm

Reality. You?

CTSTH
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 1:14pm

I suppose even a broken clock is correct twice a day (assuming it's analog, anyway). But it's wrong all the rest of the time, just like our president.

Cathy Lawrence
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 7:54am

From the incorruptible DOJ.

Anonymous
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 10:31am

The biggest threat in the country comes from the fascist administration in power in Washington, and from the cult following called the Republican Party. May they all burn in hell!

EB
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 10:39am

A corrupt president, who didn't win the popular vote, and an appointed extremely partisan and corrupt U.S. Attorney General want to make decisions for the State of Michigan and usurp the authority and decisions of a governor who received over 53% of the popular vote.

This corruption immediately follows an announcement that Trump is going to send the U.S. military into the State of Minnesota and shoot looters. Separation of powers and state's rights are ignored and scorned by the Trump administration. Trump has no use for traditional norms, the rule of law or boundaries. He's a Mussolini wannabe and stoking division as intense as existed prior to the Civil War.

Anonymous
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 8:33pm

I know. Is it any wonder our country is such a mess?

Jim Pearson
Mon, 06/01/2020 - 6:32pm

EB, virtually everything you said was demonstrably false. Is this what you progressive fascists do- you come on to these boards and lie?

President Trump has been repeatedly investigated (more so than any prior president), both legally and illegally, and there has been no evidence of corruption. The popular vote doesn't matter- this is something that every American learns in High School civics- the winner of the electoral vote in America becomes President. All US AG's are (and always have been) partisan- this is the case under both GOP and Democratic Presidents, and there is no evidence at all to support the opposite. And this isn't a democracy, where a politician who wins 53% of the vote can take the property and rights away from the other 47%- it's a republic where minorities have rights. There is no evidence that Trump is going to "send the U.S. military into the State of Minnesota and shoot looters"- none- zero. And President Trump supports law and order- see the recent phone call which is triggering fascists and anarchists or see his appointments to the court which trigger progressives and communists. Every single thing you wrote, EB, was false.

Look, this is what we have going on right now- we have people operating with false ideas, false beliefs, false ideologies, and false facts. They are spreading falsehoods (sometimes called lies), either because they are ignorant or because they are liars. And these people, whether they are Republicans or Democrats, must be called out for their falsehoods and called to account for spreading them. People like EB are the problem in our nation.

Anonymous
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 10:42am

Mr. Trump is intimidated by "that woman from Michigan." It's up to the states until pettiness prevails. We the people would be better served if he went to play golf.

David
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 10:46am

Your headline is wrong. It shouldn't say the Justice Department is backing the lawsuit. It should say "President Trump is backing the lawsuit against that woman" . He'll do anything to try and save votes, no interest in the voters.

Jim tomlinson
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 12:15pm

Don’t the right wing have something better to do? Their governing style us tax breaks for some. That’s it. Tgey could have targeted the public via income replacement which western europe so well. It quelled trumped up unrest and removed pressure for paycheck to paycheck public. But alas the gop governing style is to gin up unrest.

butch krumenaker
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 12:16pm

The President is over reaching on his "kingly" duties...….you took an oath to "protect the Constitution"....not to rewrite it OR use it for political gain ! If after this, I hope the Citizens of Michigan understand that this President and the gop care less about them then the "party"! Throw in gerrymandering suits, the legislative suits against the emergency powers, and you see a political party taking their cues from the "trump playbook"...…..just keep them in Court! Remember this in NOvember and send him back to Florida...also remember the great gop "leaders" in Lansing that are up for "lobbyist pick of the year" ! STATES RIGHTS !

Adam from Rapid City
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 12:33pm

The original order was given as a way to flatten the curve while the hospitals geared up to be able to treat people. Given that most hospitals in the state are now laying off people (10's of thousands of people), we have clearly passed this milestone. I agree with the lawsuit that this has become arbitrary at this point. We will all have to live with this virus for the rest of time, and like we did with influenza we will all eventually embrace herd immunity. At this point, we have passed the point of being prepared. There is no viable way to avoid a second wave of infections without turning the entire country into a locked down police state where everyone is dependent on the government for food, shelter and other basic necessities. We will be okay. We will get past this. Don't buy the fear mongering. At some point we need to understand that at 2.5 months we are looking at a solution in search of a problem. Isolation, fear, depression, lack of economic opportunities, anxiety...these all have consequences long term as well, and at this point we know that this is settled science. Ask yourselves if you want to react to unsettled science or settled science? Then ask who you are willing to leave that decision to.

Lee
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 3:12pm

I'll leave it to settled science - the consensus of epidemiologists who warn against opening too soon.

Anonymous
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 5:09pm

And yet have been wrong about catastrophic spikes in the areas reopening.
I agree we need to look at the science, listen to epidemologist, and the doctors. Also important to look at trends and hard data. The more that is learned, such as the huge numbers of nursing home cases/death, the more it becomes clear how we should proceed, and how this virus spreads.
Funny how with all the protests and focus on the riots, all of a sudden the virus is old news-not the attention grabbing big headline it was just a few days ago. The news has been a huge factor in how people are responding to the virus and its impact, so has social media...even more than settled science.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 10:19am

No one was wrong about anything. They said it was novel and unknown. They were studying it and adapting as they learned new things. They did not start with a premise and stick to it. They also had to adapt to changing circumstances and limited supplies. Grow up. Stop spreading the same tired lies over and over again. Smart people see through your nonsense.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 11:44am

Actually, I am pretty smart.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 10:22am

Neither the virus nor the riots are short term concerns. They are all immediate concerns, just as our failing infrastructure is. Why not help us be a better country? What are you doing to make America great again?

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 12:08pm

The defining characteristic of Americans is our short term interest in things, especially when the media moves on.They don't even teach the kids in school about 9/11.
And I voted for Whitmer, can't stand Trump.My comment was on the hysteria the media tries to ramp up, cherry picking the worst scenarios from the science for the headlines.Its all about the clicks, and right now riots and protests get more clicks-even though the virus is just as deadly and prevelant as it was yesterday.But its "old news" because something else is happening right now.I fully believe in a free press.I also absolutely believe in science, which is why I stated that we need to look at hard data and trends.And yes, we were told Georgia would have catastrophic results opening so early.They didn't.That's a fact.So I can be sympathetic to the science that things are always changing and nothing is finite; yet the narrative is being pushed that if "x happens then we will see y". We all need to be flexible, even with the science.
Don't assume things about other people so quickly, it does nothing to help us be a better country when you try to pigeon hole a person just based on a random comment on a website.We're all complex individuals, just trying to figure out to how to live with all this.I guess the only way I can do something to make this a better country is having a little empathy for other people, taking it day by day.

Anonymous
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 8:42pm

It's funny how people accept the science that allows us to launch spacecrafts, but not the science of climate change and vaccines. Some people actually "believe" the earth is flat, contrary to scientists, despite the fact that scientists gave us the internet, air/space flight, nuclear energy/bombs, eradication of diseases like polio, etc.

Karen
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 9:46pm

Most of the cases are the elderly from nursing homes. She needs to be prosecuted for writing the executive order putting them back in the nursing homes to infect others. Is there science behind that decision she made?

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:19pm

It's wishful thinking on your part, but detached from reality. Your parents picked a nice name for you.

Arjay
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 12:49pm

Whitmer’s executive orders make no sense at all, and enforcement of them is random. A drive-in theater in Dearborn is forced to close while one in another town is allowed to open because the sheriff in that town refuses to enforce her irrational orders. Good for him. A drive-in, where people sit in their own cars isolated from others. But you can buy lottery tickets to your heart’s content. No wonder people think she is crazy.

Anonymous
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 8:49pm

Except that they sell food where people gather and people use the rest rooms. The sheriff should be terminated for insubordination and jailed for insurrection. The courts continue to rule in favor or Whitmer and all the other governors' orders. Even conservative Chief Justice Roberts, a devout Roman Catholic, cast the deciding vote that there is no infringement on constitutional rights to place restrictions on church gatherings.
Squeaky wheels don't always get the grease. Quit squeaking. The law is on the side of the governor. I guess having a governor who is a lawyer means more than a dimwitted president who sells snake oil, a failed "businessman" who filed multiple bankruptcies, too scared to reveal his tax returns. Now THAT was a BIG RED FLAG.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 10:38am

The drive in theater's closed their restrooms. And lots of places that sell food are open- they're sometimes called restaurants. See, that is exactly the point- the orders are arbitrary and fail to treat businesses equally or with any established and known standards. Imagine a Republican Governor in another state deciding that all liberal or progressive businesses should all be closed, and then inventing arbitrary rules (that they could always invent arguments for) to defend them- would you liberals and progressives be wildly supportive of those efforts? Of course not. This isn't a partisan issue- this is an issue of a Governor who is breaking citizens rights- citizens of the United States of America. We have rights, and those rights include the right to engage in commerce, associate, prary, speak, and move freely- yet this Governor has violated those rights. So the Federal Government is going to weigh in on the issue- all as it should be.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:23pm

That's nonsense. It is unlawful to close the restrooms at a theater or a restaurant. They are not only showing feature length films, but they advertised showing double features. Is everyone supposed to just urinate or do number two outside somewhere? What's with the red herring? The governor did not close businesses based on whether they were owned by Republicans. Are you a Russianbot?

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 10:28pm

Great comment- virtually every sentence this person wrote contained an ad hominem personal attack that failed to respond to the content and instead attempted to de-humanize the other person so that they could feel justified in taking life, liberty, and property. This comment was a great demonstration of the fascism that our nation is battling against.

David W
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 12:53pm

Once again we see the hand of Trump, a misguided wannabe dictator. He needs to keep his nose out of state's rights issues. He and his puppet regime needs to be dumped from the presidency and found guilty of treason.

Freedom
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 3:09pm

"A misguided wannabe dictator" President Trump wants to give Michigan and Americas' citizens the freedom and liberty they deserve and are guaranteed by the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Whitmer and the dems want to take your freedom away and unlawfully lock you up and impose strict rules with harsh penalties. Controlling every aspect of your life! WHO are the "wannabe dictators" here?

David W
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 5:58pm

If your truly believe the nonsense you wrote and, if people like you are in the majority, this country is in grave trouble. People who believe as you, need to be protected from yourself. Hitler, fooled many Germans and rained down tyranny on Europe. Trump is no different. If you think he cares about your rights, you are woefully ignorant.

Freedom
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:01am

Yes David, I truly believe the things I wrote! And it's people like me who are trying to save our country from the likes of your kind. People who love and cherish our freedom and rights instead of ceding all control to despotic overlords. I can make no sense of your response. It doesn't address any aspect of my rebuttal to your obviously false statement about who are the "wanna be dictators". Your allegation was logically proven wrong and the opposite of what you stated is in fact true. Your response is the typical "orange man bad" "you're ignorant" I've come to expect from lefties who have no valid argument. I'm surprised you didn't call me a racist and homophobe too! And your attempt to portray and compare President Trump to Hitler "raining down tyranny on Europe". Get a grip man. You seem to have some wild delusions running around in your head. Yes, I truly believe President Trump cares and supports my rights and the well being of Michigan and our country. Maybe if you'd wean yourself from the diet of lies the MSM feeds you you'd see it too. But I fear you're hopelessly addicted to it and eagerly crave your next fix. They and the loony lefties are the true deadly virus infecting the world. I'll leave you with a vid that may help you. A half hour may lead you to recovery and change your life. Good luck David! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuVIs9ePOIU

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 10:24am

Trump is the fox in the hen house. His supporters are the hens.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:26pm

Moscow Mitch is the rooster!

Anonymous
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 8:50pm

What happened to states' rights?

LH
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 1:48pm

Ms. Whitmer doesn’t learn from her mistakes. She just blames others. Very poor leadership.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 10:31am

I think you are projecting and channeling Trump because HE, in fact, doesn’t learn from HIS mistakes. HE just blames others. HE not only shows very poor leadership, but NO LEADERSHIP at all. He put Pence in charge of COVID19, but won't leave the spotlight, treating news conferences as though they were campaign rallies. He relegated all responsibilities to the governors, yet never stops criticizing the governors.

Nick Ciaramitaro
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 3:06pm

Ironically, Whitmer has followed the hite House Task Force/CDC recommendations on when and how to reopen the economy than most Governors. She has had tremendous success in "flattening the curve" with much better than most states. She is systematically implementing a plan to restore commercial activity without incurring a "second wave." After doing practically nothing to stem the spread of the virus himself (other than late and ineffective travel bans) the President now wants to second guess the decisions of those he asked to fill the void left by his inaction.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:30pm

Yes, absolutely. I'd like to see all these people screaming tyranny pay some attorneys to argue before the Supreme Court against Whitmer and lose their shirts. She is basically acting like all the Republican governors. The SC would never try to fashion an anal ruling that micromanages a governor acting essentially like every other governor during a state of emergency. If she is wrong, they all are wrong.

Hank Quayle
Mon, 06/01/2020 - 10:04am

Are you ignorant or a liar? Look, you can say " She is basically acting like all the Republican governors", but that's not a truthful statement, unless you interpret the phrase "basically" in your usual liberal sense (aka, it means whatever you want it to mean). Do you mean that a car is basically an airplane? A TV is basically a toaster? A baby is basically a ragdoll? Is this what you liberals mean when you use the phrase "basically"- that it is a phrase that gives you a way to make comparisons between to unlike objects? Your sort of interpretation of language and events is what is getting us in this mess and killing thousands of people and breaking the civil liberties of the people of Michigan.

Governor Whitmer did not put in place policies that were "basically" the same as other Governor's. Other Governors (in both Republican and Democrat states) did not issue over 100 executive orders that impose sweeping limitations on nearly all aspects of life for citizens of Michigan, significantly impairing in some instances their ability to maintain their economic livelihoods. Governor Whitmer was one of the few Governor's in the US who did not follow federal recommendations regarding defining who was "essential" and who would be imprisoned in their home and lose their business and job. And most Governor's have long since given up the temporary emergency power that they seized to deal with the crisis that broke several months ago- Whitmer is one of the few to still be using these 'temporary' 'emergency' powers to wield power unchecked and unaccountably.

Whitmer is a radical and extreme partisan Governor. If you're okay with that, that's fine- but don't come on here trying to pretend that she isn't- that only makes you ignorant or a liar.

Anonymous
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 4:03pm

These clowns have nothing better to do with their time!!!! So many issues happening and all trump has on his useless brain is trying to win votes. Shame on every Republican doing his bidding!!! When this country needed leadership the most, we were all let down by this joker!! I’m voting all BLUE this November!!!

Anonymous
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 8:51pm

Blue no matter who up and down the ticket, safe from polls absentee.

SS
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 11:03pm

Wait , shouldn’t you be staying home and staying safe from the sky falling? I’m sure the Governor will still have you locked down.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:38pm

Wait, shouldn't you respond more maturely? We elected the governor and according to all polls the majority of us trust and honor her leadership, contrary to the same sentiments about the president.

Raislin Major
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 5:41pm

Governor Whitmer, when given an opportunity to respond to the lawsuit, decided against arguing the merits of her policy or the legality of the seemingly arbitrary orders. As has become her habit, instead of responding rationally and substantively to the charges she instead resulted to personal and ad hominem attacks. She could have defended her policies, but instead took the time and effort to try to score political points against Trump in order to boost her campaign coffers and booster her national profile. Michigan deserves better.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:32pm

She doesn't need to defend herself. She is right.

Anonymous
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 8:36pm

Pandemic
Killer bees
Killer police
Racial injustice
Voter suppression
Riots
Breaking dams
Floods
California burning year round

MAGA, PLEASE DUMP TRUMP

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 7:26am

Yea, because everything is his fault...you've got to remove your head from between your knees.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:33pm

How has he responded to ANY of those things. The guy is AWOL.

Geoffrey Owen
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 9:12pm

Again the justice department tosses a political hand grenade. A decade ago the favorite term of the republicans was "judicial activism", and now, after packing the courts with unqualified judges they take sides before cases even hit the courts. Instead of taking a role of leadership on the pandemic the administration left it up to the state governors, and in Michigan Gretchen Whitmer has been exceptional at bringing down the curve. Here is where we are today.
Population Cases Infection rate death death/100,000 death/infection
Michigan 9,987,000 56,884 0.570% 5463 54.70 9.60%

The infection rate is going down while the national rate goes up. Deaths per 100,000 is second highest in the nation. The rate of death per infection is the highest. It is hard to understand why they are playing this game while we bury our dead. Well maybe not so hard considering Trump and Barr.

Karen
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 9:38pm

The so called Governor keeps telling us citizens of MI she is keeping us safe, but she fails to explain to us and the media why she has and still is putting covd patients in our nursing homes with our most vulnerable. The families are not allowed to visit to check on them which is sometimes their only advocates from abuse, and there was of course abuse. A 20 yr old covd patient was put in a nursing home and beat up an elderly man. Gov Whitmer and Nessler did not even mention this once. They continue to harrass a 77 yr old barber trying to make a living and put him out of business. Apparently they do not like the elderly. Their other big issue they are concerned about is the Pres wearing a mask, while Midland MI is flooded and 2 damns have failed. Thousands unemployed hundreds of businesses maybe never opening again. They both need to be recalled.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:36pm

You lost us all at "so called governor". She IS the governor. No one will take anything you say seriously if you start with such a silly premise.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:42pm

The barber broke the law and continued breaking the law.

Linda
Wed, 06/03/2020 - 9:50am

It was an Executive Order, not a law. Only the legislature can make a law.

Annette Ramage
Sat, 05/30/2020 - 10:46pm

Bridge won’t tolerate comments that are false or defamatory or that demean, personally attack, spread hate or harmful stereotypes. Violating these standards could result in a ban.
Please enforce your own rules.
The comments are demeaning President Trump.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:40pm

Sorry, this is not North Korea. We can freely criticize the president here.

Thengineer
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 9:13am

Governor Witless keeps harping on a second wave. Most of the states that have opened are still seeing their cases declining. In my opinion she's doing this because she's still auditioning to be vice president.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:44pm

That will be Val Demings.

George Hagenauer
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 9:22am

If you think about it this - this may be the worst thing the business community could do at a time when businesses are reopening. First there is a portion of the market that has really reduced income- these folks are not returning to a normal mode of shopping. I did a small survey of local folks still actively buying to help a pair of bookselling events - note not stores- 30% of the folks said that they were still actively buying but not going out much - usually due to real covid19 risk- age, pre-existing medical issues for themselves or family members they needed to care for. Of the rest about 20-30% were open to a wide range of options for buying things but the key variable seemed to be a sense of safety. So if I was a business the last thing I would want would be a major visible suit from a large business group arguing against the Governor being able to enact safety measures. End result may be causing a section of the consumer market to re-cocoon in terms of spending. This seems to be a good example of a group of high income lobbyists and business leaders driving a political agenda while not looking at the broader impact on their markets which for the most part they are insulated from .

Erika Johnson
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 9:52am

Finally an end to her. Please, make it quick. She has had a failed attempt at being a governor. Her compassion is for herself and her family since that’s pretty much all she talks about at pressers. If she would have Been smart she would reach across partisan aisle and not be so blatant with demeaning remarks about her constituents. Also this pandemic is blood clot in lungs, oxygenate the blood and there’s the issue.

Earthdaymc
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 9:55am

To Karen concerning her comments on nursing homes as published by Salon 5/30/2020: But even as Kaiser Health News was shining a national spotlight on the lack of infection control in facilities where an increasing number of Americans will spend their last days, the Trump administration was busy doing all it could to roll back the Obama administration’s effort to improve infection control in these places.

As the New York Times reported on March 14, the “federal regulator overseeing nursing homes proposed the rule changes last summer, before the coronavirus pandemic highlighted the vulnerability of nursing homes to fast-spreading diseases. The push followed a spate of lobbying and campaign contributions by people in the nursing-home industry, according to public records and interviews.”

Specifically, last summer the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the same regulator that under Obama had tried to upgrade infection control “set in motion a plan to weaken rules… that required every nursing home to employ at least one specialist in preventing infections.”

Quid pro covid

“In November, Mr. Trump was honored by a group of nursing home operators at a fund-raising event at a packed ballroom at the InterContinental hotel in Midtown Manhattan,” the Times reported. “The event drummed up more than $3 million for his re-election campaign through a political action committee called America First Action.”

Anonymous
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:48pm

But but but regulations are strangling us.... LOL

I think Americans are finally waking up. Deregulation is BAD. Regulation is good.

Lags
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 11:18am

Life vs. Money

DetroitDave
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 3:26pm

People have different views here. Different moral matrices:
Care vs. Harm
Liberty vs. Oppression
My view is Care vs. Harm. I view the governor's shelter in place order is to protect and care for the citizens to keep then from harm. I believe the majority of citizens fall under this moral matrix.
Other citizens feel they're entitled to their liberties and that the governor's shelter in place order makes them feel they're being oppressed.
The big picture - this virus is unknown, it's new (novel), it causes death in a lot of people. The virus has the ability to hide itself from the immune system (The 14 day rule) it takes a little while before the immune system reacts. In the meantime people are unknowingly spreading the virus through "talk spit" droplets. Since there is no treatment nor a vaccine, the "quickest fix" was to shelter people in place to stop the spread. The health experts are learning as they go about this novel virus. Because of minimal testing & the abilities to do so were limited, it was still unclear as to how far the virus has spread. The governor extended the shelter in place order, because it is the ONLY LINE OF DEFENSE we have so far to combat the spread. The governor and state health experts tracked the number of infections come through the healthcare system before they could make anymore judgements. We are now at the point of categorical re-engagement of our economy. This is based on close contact or distance contact within the job category. Essential business such as grocery, because we need food; gasoline stations, because we need fuel; oil change depots because we need to continue automotive maintenance; etc. Were allowed to continue based on NECESSITIES.
I'm willing to listen on the thought process on liberties and oppression

Dave
Sun, 05/31/2020 - 10:31pm

Don't care how long Witless keeps you all locked down. I'm working and get draconian lockdown doest affect me. You said who support her will need to to get welfare because you'll have no job to go to

Linda
Wed, 06/03/2020 - 9:35am

The openings and continued closures make no sense.