Michigan bans open guns at Capitol, nearly a year after armed protest

A bipartisan commission that operates the Michigan Capitol has spent the better part of a year debating whether it could ban guns. It’s moving to do so less than a week after mayhem led to at least five deaths last week after conservatve extremists stormed the U.S. Capitol. (Bridge file photo by Dale Young)

LANSING — Commissioners who operate the Michigan Capitol voted unanimously Monday to ban openly carried firearms, capping a long-running debate more than 250 days after armed protestors loomed over lawmakers in the state Senate and three months after authorities exposed a plot to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

The Republican-controlled Capitol Commission unanimously approved an immediate ban during its 1 p.m. meeting Monday.

 

The six-member panel stopped short of a full gun ban, however, and will still allow concealed pistol license holders to carry their weapons into the building.The exception drew criticism from Democrats and gun rights groups who contend the new measure won’t deter violent extremists such as those who stormed the U.S. Capitol last week.

“It’s a good policy considering the times that we’re in and in terms of what is feasible and what we’re able to implement at this time,” Capitol Commissioner John Truscott, a Republican appointee, told Bridge Michigan on Monday. 

“We don’t have the equipment, the personnel, budget — anything” to effectively ban concealed weapons, Truscott said, noting a more aggressive approach would require legislative funding to install metal detectors and beef up security forces. Both chambers of the Michigan Legislature are controlled by Republicans, who have been hesitant to enact stricter gun measures.  

“So it would be an empty policy. We’re focusing on a policy that can actually be implemented.”

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The new policy comes amid reports that the FBI is warning that armed protests are planned in state Capitols nationwide from Saturday to Jan. 20, the date of President-elect Joseph Biden’s inauguration. 

Michigan has been one of the few states nationwide to allow long guns in its Capitol. The little-known commission has been under pressure to make changes after protesters carrying long guns entered the Michigan Capitol on April 30 as the Republican-led Legislature considered whether to extend a state of emergency that had allowed Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer to issue unilateral orders to combat the COVID-19 pandemic. 

The armed protesters stood in the gallery of the Michigan Senate while lawmakers worked below on the floor of the chambers, where at least one lawmaker donned a bulletproof vest, a step some colleagues say they have taken since. 

The demonstration was a “dress rehearsal” for last week’s rioting at the U.S. Capitol, state House Minority Leader Donna Lasinski and two Democratic colleagues wrote in a letter Sunday to the Capitol Commission. 

“We call upon the commission to place an immediate ban on all firearms and other weapons,” said Reps. Lasinski, Sarah Anthony of Lansing and Brenda Carter of Pontiac. “In addition to lawmakers doing the work of the people, our Capitol is open to school kids, tour groups and others seeking to learn more about the history of our amazing state. Without a significant change in policy, lives will continue to be put at risk by domestic terrorists carrying weapons.“

But the commission determined an open carry ban was “the extreme limit of our real authority to actually implement something,” said Commissioner William Kandler, an appointee of Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. “We’re not security experts.”

Whitmer called the new policy “a good start” toward protecting the Michigan Capitol and its visitors but said more must be done to protect students, teachers, parents and others who visit the building for tours.

“We must take action to ban all weapons at the Capitol to keep Michiganders safe,” the governor said in a statement. “I am hopeful that the Capitol Commission will recognize the need for further action, and I stand ready to assist in implementing this policy to keep Michiganders safe.” 

The commission’s about-face comes after the members debated for months on a ban, questioning whether they had the authority or resources to enforce such a policy.

Commissioners have said a ban on all guns would require cooperation from Michigan’s Republican-led Legislature, who they fear would be unwilling to appropriate funds for metal detectors and additional security that would be required to enforce a more aggressive policy.

Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, R-Clarklake, supports a ban on open carry in the state Capitol but “believes those with permits should be allowed to concealed carry,” spokesperson Amber McCann told Bridge. 

Speaker-elect Jason Wentworth, R-Farwell, said he is “grateful” for the Capitol Commission’s work but does not believe the panel has the authority to set gun policy in the building, according to a spokesperson. 

“The speaker will be looking at options for handling that moving forward,” said Lynn Afendoulis. “In the meantime, the Michigan State Police will be enforcing the new ruling.”

Shirkey, an ardent Second Amendment supporter, has drawn criticism for meeting with protestors inside the Capitol during the April protest, while federal authorities allege some of the conspirators who plotted to kidnap Whitmer attended the event.

One armed protester, Wiliam Null, live-streamed the demonstration inside the Capitol and was recorded saying he would “have fun hunting” if shooting started during

In a Monday morning tweet, Nessel noted handguns have been used in past mass shootings, including the 2007 shooting at Virginia Tech, where an undergraduate student used two semi-automatic pistols to kill 32 and wound 17 others.

“Guns you can’t readily see are just as deadly as those you can,” Nessel, a Democrat, wrote. “The Capitol is not safe.”

Truscott, himself a concealed permit holder, noted that certification requires extra training. 

“I am unaware of any CPL holder who has been convicted of any criminal shooting in Michigan,” he said. “I just don’t think it’s happened.

Advocates of stricter gun restrictions have noted that most government buildings, including Lansing City Hall, have tighter security than the Capitol. 

Protest signs, however, have long been banned because officials say holders could accidentally bump  and damage the historic building. 

In a letter to the Capitol Commission, Sen. Erika Geiss, D-Taylor, said that only banning openly carried guns would not eliminate the risk for “mayhem and bloodshed.” She urged the commission to ban all weapons in the Michigan Capitol, work to install metal detectors at public entrances and take other steps to improve security and screening. 

“I urge you to take a much bolder position on preserving the safety of the building and the people who spent time in its space,” Geiss wrote.

State Sen. Dayna Polehanki whose April 30 photo of armed men standing above lawmakers in the Senate gallery garnered national attention, expressed similar concerns. 

“This is NOT a “step in the right direction”; in fact, it creates the *illusion* that people will be safe inside our Capitol,” the Livonia Democrat wrote in a  tweet. “We are not safe until a total gun ban is enacted.”

The commision meeting comes a week after a bomb threat temporarily closed the Capitol on Thursday morning. 

On Friday, law enforcement announced three felony charges against a Charlotte, Michigan man, Michael Varrone, 48, whom police alleged made the threat. He is also accused of threatening the lives of Rep. Cynthia Johnson, D-Detroit, and her family members in December. 

Johnson served on a House Oversight Committee that heard testimony from President Donald Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani. Johnson shared posts on social media of death threats she received after she questioned the lawyer. 

She’s one of many public officials who have received death threats in the wake of the Nov. 3 election, said Rep. Laurie Pohutsky, D-Livonia. 

An open carry ban will not go far enough to protect politicians from potential violence, Pohutsky said. 

“This threatening and intimidating rhetoric is not going anywhere,” she said. “We have to take it seriously, and part of that is making sure there are no weapons period in the Capitol or the office building.”

Commission member Kerry Chartkoff called the firearm issue “one of the most difficult ones to ever confront the Capitol Commision or its predecessor.” 

She said she received hundreds of emails in support of the measure, while acknowledging that many wished the Commission would ban all weapons. 

“We’ve gone as far as I think the commission can go with the issue at the present time,” said Commission Chair Gary Randall. “Certainly, it’s an issue that can be revisited.”

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G Scott
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 6:50am

A good start. Now, if we can just ban people who support people who carry guns into the capital. 2022 is coming!

Don
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 9:37am

2022 but people forget!!! and trumps sheeps who are not dead forom the fake trump virus will vote republican and try to stop other from voting!!!

I pray
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 10:10am

Fixing the gerrymandering problem hopefully will help Michigan move more to the middle, away from the extremists that have been in control for so long.

EB
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 11:26am

If the Independent Citizens Redistricting Commission does their job well, 2022 will mark our first fair Michigan legislator elections in two decades.

Scott
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 1:19pm

I think you are living in the wrong state.....we are not Marxist .....yet.

Don
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 9:38am

BUT will the copes enforce the law or just stand by /help the armed attackers like they did on Jan 6th????

Linaka
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 9:46am

This is just window dressing. Weapons need to be banned from government buildings. My child had a field trip to the MI capital in 2019. With how things are now, I wouldn't allow it. What if a person or group came in with concealed weapons while school kids were there and decided they were going to shoot at our lawmakers or the governor? Can you imagine what it would have been like if school children had been at our nations capital during the riot? Who needs to get killed before some real action is taken?

JAS
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 9:46am

I support a complete ban of guns in the capitol and on the grounds, except for law enforcement. I contacted the Speaker of the House after the State capitol was taken over last spring expressing my concern. It was brushed off. He wasn't concerned. I am not "anti-gun". I am married to a man retired from law enforcement. He typically doesn't carry a weapon. I now ask him to do so on occasion because there are individuals out there with a mindset that frightens me.

Subee
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 9:49am

This is only a start. Everyone knows that violent hillbilly extremists never have a concealed pistol permit.

Felix
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 11:10am

Perhaps the Capitol Commission could talk to the folks who operate metal detectors and search people entering airports and courtrooms. They seem to think it's possible to prevent and deter people from carrying concealed pistols, and that it is worth while to do so in order to discourage murder, assault, and intimidation, and prevent unbalanced people's temper tantrums from having deadly results.

In this light, the prohibition of protest signs is laughable. Bullets are also capable of damaging historic buildings. If protest signs and placards are inadmissible for this reason, then surely firearms are objectionable for the same reason. Unlike signs, concealed weapons, by definition, being concealed, have no First Amendment function in conveying political speech.

Geoffrey Owen
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 11:34am

In Oakland County you cannot bring a gun into the courthouse. There are checkpoints at every entrance. You can't even bring a cell phone into the building. Shame on the Grand Obstructionist Party for continuing this dangerous policy. It will result in death.

realscience
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 11:39am

considering only the legislature can write bills to enact laws that the gov. has to sign to make them laws, this is not legal. It will be challenged. Just because benson wants it to happen, telling the committee who cleans the floors to write something up is ridiculous. Dems think they are above the law and don't act contitutionally...

Doug L
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 1:11pm

In order to get a concealed pistol license (CPL) , one must receive training, be fingerprinted by local police and pay a significant fee. It is very unlikely that someone who has followed these rules will be a threat. Those that are concerned about CPL holders are worried about a problem that does not exist.

J Veselica
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 1:48pm

This Bridge Michigan article says "Protest signs, however, have long been banned because officials say holders could accidentally bump and damage the historic building", but the current Capitol Commission can't find it in themselves to ban concealed weapons in this same building? Unfortunately, it will probably take not only damage to the building, but actual human injuries and deaths to prompt Commission Chair Gary Randall and his fellow commissioners to find the"...equipment, the personnel, budget — anything” to, finally, enact a ban on concealed weapons in the Capitol building and protect lives.

RCP
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 1:54pm

I am all in favor of banning guns and weapons from the Capitol, but I find a bit hypocritical that because of recent events this has become a top priority of our legislators, yet the rest of America has been living with these events in our schools, churches, theaters, shopping centers, concerts for over 20 years and these legislators have done nothing to insure our safety. Let's adopt sensible gun laws NOW to protect ALL of us, not just members of Congress.

middle of the mit
Wed, 01/13/2021 - 4:17am

Because those who are enablers, never understand what they are enabling until it hits them personally. And yet? They still aren't willing to deny arms totally.

How to get my potato launcher into the Capital building now. CONS?

All I Really Want
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdIsRewzVZ4

Where is Hannity screaming about a terrorist plot to take over a consulate........wait......it was the US Capital.

Has anyone at Bridge ever seen that consulate? Get ready.

https://www.ibtimes.com/ahmed-abu-khattala-alleged-benghazi-attack-ringl...
https://www.cnn.com/2013/09/10/world/benghazi-consulate-attack-fast-fact...

Does that look like the US Capital or any Embassy building?

Anonymous
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 3:33pm

Why is this even an issue? What reason is there to bring guns to the Capitol? Why should the Capitol be treated any differently from the US Supreme Court that decides gun rights? You cannot enter the Supreme Court or any other court, for that matter, with guns. You cannot enter police stations with guns.

Basics
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 4:17pm

Given what animal Republicans did at the US Capitol, it seems we new laws for the Michigan Capitol saying, "It's a felony to defecate and urinate in the Michigan Capitol, outside of toilets." Sounds like the infamous Trump pee pee tape from Russia. Glad Chatfield is gone.

Bruce
Tue, 01/12/2021 - 10:16pm

It seems they have, again, overstepped their authority. This is wrong, and a violation of 18 USC Sections 241-242. A federal felony. Enforcing would also be a felony.