Michigan Gov. Whitmer to GOP: I’m not going to negotiate reopening economy

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, a first-term Democrat, has requested a 28-day extension of her emergency powers.

LANSING — Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said Wednesday she will not negotiate future stay-at-home orders with the Republican-led Legislature, despite pressure to speed plans to restart an economy she locked down to slow the coronavirus. 

With tensions high at the Michigan Capitol, the Whitmer administration took the rare step of disclosing an internal email exchange with a top aide to Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, who proposed extending an emergency declaration set to expire Friday by up to two weeks in exchange for a public promise by the governor to work with lawmakers on future orders.

The first-term Democrat, who has requested a 28-day extension, rejected the offer and told GOP leaders she believes she has the authority to continue emergency actions with or without their blessing.

"Michigan remains in a state of emergency regardless of the actions you decide to take or not take,” Whitmer said in a response also released to reporters by her communications director. 

Shirkey was “extremely disappointed that he heard about the governor’s rejection based on her leaking an email to the press,” said spokesperson Amber McCann. “If there was any interest in his caucus working with the governor, it has evaporated.”

In an interview with MIRS subscription news, Shirkey, R-Clarklake, suggested Whitmer is “comfortable being a dictator” and called the email release a “double middle finger” from the administration.

Shirkey and House Speaker Lee Chatfield, R-Levering, want a seat at the table as Whitmer finalizes her economic restart plan with a team of business and public health advisers.

Republicans argue the Legislature is an equal branch of government and lawmakers should have a say in the state’s response to the global pandemic. GOP leaders want the governor to continue relaxing rules for businesses and contend she needs their approval to take emergency actions beyond Thursday. 

But Whitmer maintains she can continue to act unilaterally under a 1945 law that does not require legislative approval, a measure Senate Republicans voted to repeal last week in a symbolic move.

“Republicans in the Legislature want to negotiate opening up sectors of our economy,” Whitmer said later Wednesday in a COVID-19 briefing.  

“They're acting as though we're in the midst of a political problem. This is not a political problem that we have. This is a public health crisis. This is a global pandemic. We've already lost over 3,700 Michiganders, more than we lost in Vietnam.”

Whitmer, who previewed her “MI Safe Start” plan on Monday and has promised to put the construction industry back to work by May 7, said she'll make decisions "based on facts and science and data and risk." She has not offered a timeline for other industries that will reopen in phases depending on region and workplace type. 

Lawmakers met in Lansing on Wednesday but took little action in a lengthy session that was interrupted by anti-Whitmer protesters. At least one demonstrator was reportedly wheeled out on a stretcher after forced removal by House sergeants.

Rep. Jason Sheppard, R-Temperance, blasted Whitmer in a Wednesday afternoon statement after negotiations with GOP leaders fell apart. 

“She’s not so much a governor as she is a minority leader who won an election,” Sheppard said, describing what he called “failures” at the Unemployment Insurance Agency, where there have been long wait times for the state’s 1 million unemployed workers, as well as a concerns over a volunteer contact tracing contract awarded to a firm with Democratic ties that Whitmer quickly rescinded. 

House Minority Leader Christine Greig, D-Farmington Hills, accused Republicans of playing partisan games amid the public health crisis.

“The Legislature has important work to do,” she said in a statement. “We must focus on responding to this deadly pandemic and tackling a looming state budget crisis, rather than waste precious time trying to inhibit the governor’s ability to take steps necessary to protect and save lives during an emergency.”

The House plans to meet again Thursday to “continue negotiating for common-sense changes to help families who are struggling during this pandemic,” said Gideon D’Assandro, a spokesman for Chatfield and the GOP caucus.

“Thousands of people have reached out to their state representatives because they’ve been hurt by executive orders that go too far and make unfair one-size-fits-all decisions,” D’Assandro said.

“Strong action is needed to combat this pandemic, but Michigan’s response has been a national outlier for the amount of harm it has caused and the amount of confusion and uncertainty it has created.”

Freedom to make our own choices’

Critics contend the governor went too far with her lockdown orders and has not eased rules fast enough as the state’s coronavirus curve has appeared to flatten. Michigan has so far confirmed 40,399 cases of COVID-19 and 3,670 related deaths since March 10, including 1,137 additional cases and 103 deaths announced Wednesday.

Whitmer’s orders are “unprecedented” and violate the rights of business owners forced to close, according to a federal lawsuit filed Tuesday on behalf of Sotheby’s real estate firm in Birmingham, EPM landscaping of Ann Arbor, the Intraco exporting firm of Troy and its subsidiary Casite, along with Hillsdale Jewelers in Hillsdale. 

“For the first time in our State’s history—indeed, in our nation’s history—the State government is mass quarantining healthy people instead of the sick,” attorneys with the Butzel Long law firm wrote in a complaint filed to the U.S. District Court in Grand Rapids. 

“As a free people, we have the unalienable right to pursue happiness, which includes the freedom to make our own choices about our safety and welfare without unconstitutional interference.” 

Plaintiffs want the federal court to declare Whitmer’s lockdown order unconstitutional and prohibit the state from enforcing it or similar mandates in the future.

 

The suit contends Whitmer’s orders, legal under state law, violate business owners’ federal right to engage in interstate commerce. Hillsdale Jewelers, for instance, has lost almost all its business — a 99 percent drop in revenue — because it can no longer import metals and stones used to make jewelry, sell products in store or perform repairs, attorneys claim. 

“In short, plaintiffs bring this lawsuit to define the limits of a state’s police power,” the complaint said, noting stay-home order violators can face misdemeanor penalties of up to 90 days in jail and a fine of up to $500.

Whitmer’s office declined to discuss the suit, citing a policy of not commenting on pending litigation.

It’s the latest in a slew of lawsuits against the administration in the midst of the pandemic, including complaints over Whitmer’s decisions to close landscaping businesses and prohibit motor boating.

She has since reversed some of those policies but contends they saved lives.

Whitmer prevailed in one state case Wednesday when Court of Claims Judge Christopher Murray rejected a motion to suspend her stay-at-home order in a lawsuit filed by five Michigan residents who claim the governor violated their due process rights. 

Murray, who previously served as deputy legal counsel to Republican former Gov. John Engler, said Whitmer acted within her authority and that suspending the order would not serve the public interest.

“Although the Court is painfully aware of the difficulties of living under the restrictions of these executive orders, those difficulties are temporary, while to those who contract the virus and cannot recover (and to their family members and friends), it is all too permanent,” he wrote.

Attorney General Dana Nessel applauded the ruling, which her office called the first “substantive” decision on the constitutionality of the governor’s stay-home orders.

“This pandemic has already taken more than 3,600 lives in Michigan and many more around the world,” Nessel said in a statement. “The primary goal of the Stay Home, Stay Safe order has always been to protect human life.” 

Pressure for U.S. attorney general

The governor is facing growing pressure — and potential legal action — from both the federal government and the state Legislature. 

U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr on Monday announced a new effort to monitor state and local directives “that could be violating the constitutional rights and civil liberties of individual citizens.”

The order is not specific to Michigan, but Barr drafted U.S. Attorney Matthew Schneider of the Eastern District of Michigan to help oversee the project.

Schneider and Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Eric Drieband will monitor state and local policies and, “if necessary, take action to correct them,” Barr said in a memo.

“We do not want to unduly interfere with the important efforts of state and local officials to protect the public,” he wrote. “But the Constitution is not suspended in times of crisis. We must therefore be vigilant to ensure its protections are preserved.”

In a Tuesday morning radio interview on WILS, Chatfield called Barr’s memo a “clear message,” not just to Whitmer, but to leaders across the country. 

He said that without negotiated changes to Whitmer’s stay-home order, the GOP-led Legislature may not extend the separate emergency declaration set to expire Friday. 

Whitmer said her order, set to last through May 15, will remain in effect regardless. But a legislative extension would continue to protect health care workers from any legal liability they may face for services performed at the state’s request.

“It could be something that the judicial branch needs to get involved in, so we’re prepared for that,” Chatfield told MLive.com Tuesday.

GOP leaders have not spelled out their wish list, but Senate Republicans on Tuesday adopted a resolution urging the governor to allow health care providers to resume elective surgeries she put on hold last month.

Giving hospitals “the freedom to determine their capacity to handle elective procedures,” is a key step in improving the financial stability of hospitals, said the resolution, sponsored by Sen. Lana Theis, R-Brighton. 

In her Wednesday briefing, Whitmer said she is considering changes to her March 20 order prohibiting non-essential medical procedures but drew a distinction between time-sensitive medical care like cancer treatments, “non-urgent” care like hip replacements and “truly elective” cosmetic surgeries.

“We’ve been having intensive conversations with our public health experts as well as our leadership in our various hospitals systems, and I do think there is going to be something in the coming days on that front,” the governor said. 

The House on Wednesday unanimously approved separate legislation that would require hospitals to notify first responders if a patient they transported later tests positive for COVID-19.

A new oversight committee established with subpoena power to review Whitmer’s handling of the pandemic also met for the first time in Lansing. 

“The crisis has cost lives, jobs and it will cost our economy and government budgets billions of dollars,” Sen. Aric Nesbitt, R-Lawton, suggesting the oversight process will help Michigan identify what has and has not worked so far.

“We have a responsibility to develop the best Michigan model possible for handling this crisis — and the next one,” he said. “Hopefully there isn’t a next one, but in the course of human events, pandemics happen, and we need to be prepared better.”

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I support Whitmer
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 6:35pm

Exactly, they can keep open their churches, but let's listen to scientists when it comes to opening the economy.

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 2:20am

If we were listening to actual scientists then nothing would have been closed in the first place.

Numbers are in. Coronavirus no more deadly than the flu. You people who support this shutdown have dementia.

RD
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:15am

You have got to be high!!! This virus has killed more people in the last 2 months than anything else like it. You're so delusional on your po,itical righty brain that you have no empathy for this human crisis.

Anonymous
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 4:05pm

According to the MDCH, in Michigan in 2018 by this time (I divided the numbers in third because it's April) we had 8448 dead because of heart disease (note- in 2020 the Governor has ordered a halt to all screenings for heart disease), 7088 dead from cancer (the Bridge had a neat article about how the Governor's orders has resulted in cancer screenings being way down so we're probably going to see a rise in this for years to come), 1927 for Lower Respiratory Diseases, and 623 for Pneumonia/Influenza.

Right now 3670 have died from COVID. I don't know if I'd describe it as the super killer that you suggest it is. By the numbers, it is only slightly more deadly than normal Lower Respiratory Diseases and Pneumonia/Influenza. It is way less than heart disease and cancer.

There is partisanship, name-calling, pride, fear, confusion, and anger all over the board on this issue. But by the numbers, COVID isn't a major killer, and the shutting down of Michigan to fight it is going to lead to increases in other killers (heart disease, cancer, suicide, etc) that are likely to end up being far more deadly than the virus. Save lives- end the shut down.

Anonymous
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 6:20am

It's idiots like you who will cause us to lose this battle.

Greg
Wed, 05/06/2020 - 6:47am

Thank you for your well researched response. There are people tat are so afraid of this virus that they can't seem to want to see the facts, even when given using verified data.

Heart eyes
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 4:35pm

That's MI governor.

Greg
Wed, 05/06/2020 - 6:45am

Kind of strange that no one is dying from the actual flu anymore which on a normal year kills 40,000 people. Now every death is supposedly from Covid.

Matt G.
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:19am

Can you cite recent scientific sources for those numbers in a manner that suggests scientific consensus rather than individual non-peer-reviewed papers?

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:32am

My God.
"Consensus"
Matt, "Consensus" is not "fact".
If 10 idiots agree on something, does that make it true?
Peer reviewed papers? What are you talking about? More than 90% of peer reviewed papers published in the last 10 years failed to use the scientific method and were so flawed that they shouldn't be relied on for anything except maybe burning as a heat source. This is what "consensus" gives you!
Look at the numbers from the areas which have been sampled randomly (instead of targeted testing like most areas) - The infection rate (number of infected) is more than 1/3rd of the population, and that was weeks ago, and the death rate comes in, even with GENEROUS death estimates (we are guaging coronavirus deaths completely different than the flu) it looks no worse than a bad influenza season.

These are raw numbers, not "consensus of idiots" or "paper reviewed by idiot's peers".
Please, for the love of God, learn to think.

Time Out for You
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 11:44am

Revere is exactly why you can't negotiate with these people. It's like dealing with toddlers.

middle of the mit
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 10:29pm

Exactly!
They don't need to be educated in any area to be experts.

They voted for the best brain in the world.

And then complain when "The Best Brain in the world" asks the experts if you can inject disinfectants into the body to destroy germs because he just found out that disinfectants kill germ and viruses!

You can't make this up!!!

But WE are elitists!

Hey! Should we go back to blood letting?

Bloodletting is the withdrawal of blood from a patient to prevent or cure illness and disease. Bloodletting, whether by a physician or by leeches, was based on an ancient system of medicine in which blood and other bodily fluids were regarded as "humours" that had to remain in proper balance to maintain health.Wikipedia

Revere
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:50pm

Mit,
You and others like you are the reason that this country will fall.
I did not vote for Trump nor would I have ever voted for him.
Furthermore, he did not tell anyone to inject disinfectants into themselves - That is literally debunked fake news that has been spreading like wildfire.
I am highly educated, not that I need to prove that to you, as it only takes a highschool-level understanding of statistics to understand the numbers coming out of these recent random-sample studies indicating that up to 1/3rd of the population has already been infected.
To a mathematician or a staticist, these numbers are the only facts that exist pertaining to coronavirus as it applies to the population.
To your "experts" who "don't tell you how to think, you choose how to think and it happens to be exactly what they tell you to think", these numbers are meaningless, because your "experts" apparently lack and even basic understanding of statistics (and mathematics!).
Trump? Best brain in the world? Are you kidding me? I've never met a big-business man (which is what he is) whom I've liked. I don't doubt he has a decent understanding of math, but he is irrelevant in all of this - It is the governors shutting down the states in the face of a total lack of facts, not Trump, so put your TDS away and come back to reality.
People who think like you are why we will be in a state of civil war within this decade and that civil war will not be like the last - This next civil war will last decades. The rest of our lives are going to suck because you idiots can't think for yourselves. Thanks a lot for that.

Mike Smith
Sat, 05/02/2020 - 10:09am

Well stated Revere, WELL STATED!

middle of the mit
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 4:09am

Revere.
Sorry dude, your party is the party who thinks people like me, know more than doctors, scientists and epidemiologists.

See, I am the guy that looks to those people for answers when it comes to things like this.

Here is video of President Trump asking HIS experts if they can use disinfectants into the human body.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TXWW6R2fgc

I never said he told people to do it He just asked HIS experts if they could look into it.

Now, if you wanted to hire me to wire your dryer, I can do that. I will even be able to hook a new line to your fuse box. But I am NOT an electrician. Can you understand what I am saying? I don't know the codes, but I know enough to run a wire to your fuse box because I KNOW electricians that have schooled me and have read books so that I can do that.

This is not wiring a dryer to a fuse box. Do you understand?

It is people like you that will succumb to people like me because you want your work done for as cheap as it can be. That is why our country is in "debt" to China!

GET IT YET?

Revere
Mon, 05/04/2020 - 11:04pm

Mit,
Did you even read my post?
I have never voted republican in my life, nor have I ever voted a "straight ticket" in my life. I vote for the few whom I believe actually have the good of The People in mind and the rest get nothing from me.
What the heck are you talking about?

Cathy
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 2:04pm

You overlook information which is undeniable. 3.2 million infected worldwide, 227,000 killed, John's Hopkins University. What's worse? United States 1 MILLION Covid19 cases and rising. Our numbers continues to be the worst. The Governor is right in her actions and assessments. Listen to the GOP and die.

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 3:18pm

Cathy,
Factual numbers are right in front of you yet you overlook them. You seem to have a disrespect for basic mathematics and statistics.
The numbers you cite are based on "targeted" testing, where only the very sick and/or at-risk are tested.
If you want to determine an approximate infection rate for a population, you must take a random sample of that population; A random sample of a subpopulation (i.e., a city, or a community) will also do, as it can be correlated with the overall population, much like what is done with flu numbers every year.
Every random sample study published in the past few weeks has indicated infection rates of approximately 1/3rd of the population in the USA.
For your information, there are more than 300 million people in the USA, and 1/3rd of this would be 100 million infected.
Dividing the GENEROUS death numbers as published by the media by this number results in approximately .01% death rate. Even if you are exceedingly generous and multiply this by 10, you are at 0.1%.
This is basic mathematics yet you overlook it.
Are you willing to fight and die for what you believe in? I believe that a good percentage of this country is, and that group actually appears to respect real science and mathematics. You might find yourself doing battle with them someday if you don't start exercising basic reasoning and learn to use basic logic.
I personally hope that never happens but every day that this coronavirus hysteria continues to be pushed is another day closer to a total split of this country.

It's all good
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 6:38pm

Shirkey is right. It's a “double middle finger” from the governor. One for Shirkey and one for Chatfield.

Get real
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 11:45am

And they BOTH deserve it.

All legal
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:07pm

I guess the courts gave Shirkey and Chatfield the finger too!

LOL
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 6:42pm

Rep. Jason Sheppard, R-Temperance, blasted Whitmer in a Wednesday afternoon statement after negotiations with GOP leaders fell apart.

“She’s not so much a governor as she is a minority leader who won an election.”

Since the US House is now Democratically controlled, I guess you could say the same thing about Trump.

“He’s not so much a president as he is a minority leader who won an election.”

CathND
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 9:03pm

How so? The Senate has a Republican majority. So, Republican White House, Republican Senate, and Demarxist House. Your kommon kore math doesn’t work.

Mi5cents
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:27am

A "minority leader" elected by a clear majority of the voters, facing a legislature whose majority is largely due to massive gerrymanderind.

Yep
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 11:46am

Take THAT, CathND

Reality
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:58pm

Trump was "selected" by the electoral college - NOT elected by "We the People". The "clear majority of the voters" you speak of voted for Hillary.

Revere
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:51pm

Reality,
There are about 150 million armed people who support the constitution and the Republic and therefore vehemently disagree with you. Get back in your safe little corner with your communist buddies. We'll be deporting people like you to china soon.

Sounds reasonable
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 6:48pm

In her Wednesday briefing, Whitmer said she is considering changes to her March 20 order prohibiting non-essential medical procedures but drew a distinction between time-sensitive medical care like cancer treatments, “non-urgent” care like hip replacements and “truly elective” cosmetic surgeries.

Libby Smart
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 9:20pm

Great. Every day that she waits is another person whose life she has killed with her policies.

Richard Sullivan, a professor of cancer and global health at King’s College London, says: “The number of deaths due to the disruption of cancer services is likely to outweigh the number of deaths from the coronavirus itself over the next five years. Cancer screening services have stopped, which means we will miss our chance to catch many cancers when they are treatable and curable.” Charles Swanton, Cancer Research UK’s chief clinician, says some tumours will become “inoperable” rather than survivable.

Great Britain, which has a population 6 times greater than Michigan's, is estimating that government policies preventing cancer treatments are going to lead to 150,000 avoidable deaths. Divide that number by 6 (since Michigan has 1/6 the population)... that means Whitmer's policies are going to lead to 25000 more dying from delays in cancer treatments. Every day she waits is a day closer to that number.

FYI: COVID deaths in Michigan.... 3670... and we're past the peak. This Governor is killing far more than she is saving.

Pssssst
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 11:48am

This is Michigan, USA. What does London, UK, have to do with anything?

No kidding
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 11:58am

I can't tell if Libby Smart understands that England and the US are different countries with completely different healthcare systems.

Libby Smart
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 7:52pm

You idiot- the virus is the same virus whether in whatever country it is, and I explained how the population levels could be made comparable. And your point, you stupid moron, about 'different healthcare systems' is irrelevant, because my point was that cancer screenings are being cancelled- you can cancel them in a great healthcare system or cancel them in no healthcare system and it would make no material difference- they would be cancelled. Little bit of advice for you- get out of your parents basement, get a job, grow up, put on a pair of pants, take a course in logic, maybe another course in ethics, stop stroking your own ego, and then start commenting on here.

Harris
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 2:29pm

While at a state level numbers are past their peak, if we apply the regional approach favored by Chatfield and company, we see that the number of cases (and deaths) has been growing elsewhere in the state. This regional growth is one of the reasons to be cautious about opening the state-- it's not clear at all that the wave of infection has peaked out-state in the lower peninsula nor for that matter in the Upper.

That said, the question of easing some types of medical services makes sense, if only because this is a necessary source of revenue for the hospitals themselves, the ones providing the front-line response. The strangeness of having hospitals simultaneously engage intensely with the virus while also laying off is pretty obvious.

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 2:24am

My business has been outright ignoring the order and haven't had any trouble with the sheriff yet who appear to fully support us. No one will shut us down. Our constitution and its amendments told us so. A most of our employees carry personal weapons which we allow and endorse, so we aren't worried for their safety from the zombies who support this crap. We will not be stopped.

I call BS
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 11:55am

Really, what's your business? If you are so proud, tell us.

Suzanne
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:47pm

My husband and I have a Small Resort Business in Northwestern Michigan. We have spent the last 33 years building this business up for our retirement. I will NOT let Governor Whitmer Dictate to us what we can and cannot do! We know how to make a SAFE,CLEAN environment for our guests to use. WE ARE OPEN. I stand by my constitutional rights. Whoever wants to listen to the Governor , stay homeFOREVER. sShe DOES NOT represent all Michiganians!!!!!!!!I have deemed my business essential . I’m open so that the Community Mental Health system will not be inundated with violent, suicidal fishermen. THATS MY PART, no scientific research needed.

Joy
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 3:48pm

Thank you, Suzanne, just know that other than a few friends who want to awkwardly show support for you, most sane people will steer clear. But otherwise why don't you give the name of your proud business so everyone who agrees with you can patronize your business?

Suzanne
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:59pm

Sorry you are unsupportive of my view. I will respect all who don’t want to patronize my business. It’s YOU I would rather not Disclose my location as you obviously want to destroy my Constitutional rights to freedom. Stay where you are and stay safe...

Suzanne
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:20pm

Oh I forgot , our “few” friends of 33 years ARE supporting us . Don’t forget to Stay Home,Stay Safe.

Suzanne
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 3:09pm

Our “few friends “ of 33 years of are supporting us. So stay home and stay safe.

middle of the mit
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 10:41pm

These posts come from people who call themselves LAW AND ORDER Republicans.

Let it be KNOWN the ONLY LAW THEY ACCEPT IS THEIR OWN LAW. Do you think either of these business people will TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IF THEIR CUSTOMERS OR EMPLOYEES CONTRACT, GET SICK AND OR DIE FROM SAID VIRUS?

HE double hockeysticks NO YOU DON'T!

But they consider themselves the LAW.

Because according to Suzanne, she is worried about suicidal fishermen.

If you are going to commit suicide because you can't fish?

You are weak.

And guess what? I live on a LARGE lake in Northern MI. Do you want to know what I still haven't seen on the lake yet? Ha ha ha ha!

A boat! NOT a single one! Why? Have you ever been out on a boat when it is 45 degrees?

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 3:24pm

Sure, let me post that here, so that all of the stasi sympathizers flood my local sheriff with a million nazi-esque snitch reports.
Not!
I'll be hard to find, we are one of what I suspect are tens of thousands of small businesses ignoring this order. We will survive. We will not be shut down. And we are very capable of protecting ourselves ;)

Anonymous
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:39pm

Good for you. As of right now, Whitmer has no authority any more. The 1945 law did not give our Governor to declare whatever they wanted an emergency, keep it as an emergency as long as they wanted, and rule as an unchecked dictator in the meantime. And she was never following Section 3 and 4 of the 1973 law, so she didn't have any authority under that. She can pretend whatever she wants- it's done.

Marshall
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 7:03pm

Sadly Ms Whitmer’s arrogance and tyrannical nature make bipartisan action impossible. This problem is too broad to be in the hands of one individual. She should have accepted the offer of help. She has made the road ahead more difficult.

David
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 7:55pm

It wasn't an offer of help, it was a quid pro quo. Just negotiations. I'm not saying I agree with the way she handled it, but to call all of this tyrannical is hyperbole and only feeds the partisan fire that is burning this country. She's been stubborn, more than I think it's good, but please stop with all the tyranny and dictatorial name calling. It helps nothing.

Jon
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:27am

Hear hear! It's nothing new, but the hyperbole and party-over-people mentality only makes things worse.

Marshall
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 10:11am

Call it what you like. I don't think "Quid Pro Quo" applies. That means money given in trade for favors. That's more like the contract Gov W funneled to her cronies without the usual vetting process. Anyway, my point is that she is demanding that extreme powers be vested in her, alone , for as long as shes sees fit. This should concern anyone in a free society. Tyranny is not an unreasonable term for this. I get that Covid 19 is a big deal. It's going to be with us for a while. More people will die. She is the one who plays politics with it while auditioning for a VP spot. She claims to have "thick skin", but reacts like a child when opposed. A real leader would bring everybody to the table . We deserve better.

Dis Agree
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:00pm

Nope, you deserve what you get. Elections have consequences. The legislature is GOP because of gerrymandering and has been completely useless throughout this national emergency.

Anonymous
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 5:08pm

Well said!

Dave N
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 9:23pm

By golly, this women is the closest thing I’ve seen as a wanna be tyrant in this country. The sheer pettiness of her dictates are truly entertaining. If she told her supporters to walk backwards and wash with mud, they like little mindless automatons, would be right onboard with it. The strength of dictators is based on the sheer stupidity of their supporters and Gretchen is clearly guaranteed another four year term as dictat... I mean governor. Oh yeah, I almost forgot “Orange Man Bad”.

To drama queens
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:05pm

Really, what about the Republican governors that are doing the same things?

Dave N
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 1:43pm

Red team / Blue team. Who said 90% of the Repub’s are any better? Why was Hitler elected? Why did the Chinese and Russians allow themselves to be slaughtered in their millions by leaders like Mao and Stalin? I always found it humorous that Russians sent to the gulags wrote to Stalin saying “if only you knew what is happening here Comrade Stalin, help us”. Of course he knew as it was Stalin that sent them there. Myself, I’m going to get a bowl of popcorn and watch the idiotic sheep get sheered by their overlords. Now back to your cell and remember “Orange Man Bad”.

No to drama
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 3:51pm

Dave, "Red team / Blue team. Who said 90% of the Repub’s are any better?" “Orange Man Bad”.
Only Trump can save us! LOL

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 2:22am

No worries, she's out of here and this is going to follow her for the rest of her life. We will be trolling her with these grave mistakes wherever she goes. Kavanaugh trolls don't have crap on this, we will never let her forget this.

Jon
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:34am

Why? Why troll for the rest of her life? I think it's easy to anonymously post this kind of thing on an online forum, but I seriously wonder about this approach. In my experience trolling is a knee jerk reaction by people flailing about for ways to feel like their actions matter, focusing on blaming others while missing opportunities to do something productive. I don't believe that the governor has handled this especially well, nor have any other politicians, since no one has any experience dealing with a crisis like this. However, the blind blame game seems to be especially useless. Good luck with your trolling.

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 3:22pm

Jon,
I will not be trolling anyone - I am making the point that everyone should be trolling her with this for the rest of her career.
Look up the Kavanaugh incident - That supreme court justice who continues to be trolled with lies from the fake news media to this day.
They will never let him forget something he did not do - Now let's not ever let Whitmer forget something which she did in fact do.
I strongly suspect that the point of this post will be completely missed by you as with the last one, but who knows, maybe some reason will get through to that little FAUX NEWS mind of yours someday.

No point
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 3:43pm

Blah blah blah

middle of the mit
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:32am

A lot of posters on this site would call me a troll. And again, to be honest, I have referred to myself as a sometimes troll. At least I admit it.

Are my reactions knee jerk? NO. Not in any way, shape or form.

How do I troll? I want to know why there are still no motor boats on the lake I live near. See? That is trolling. How? Why?

Because I have lived near this lake for almost 50 years. And NOBODY goes out this early unless it is for hunting, but it isn't duck hunting season yet. That is in the fall.

I also don't blame a whole lot of people for the actions that are being taken. NOBODY knows what to expect or how to deal with it. But I was a Boy Scout. And the motto is "be prepared". And we weren't. Not at a State level or Federal level.

When it hit in Washington State and then in NY State, it became a Federal problem and the Feds have decided that it is a State problem.

The problem with that?

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/maryland-guv-using-national-guar...

That Governor is a Republican and he is using the State National Guard to keep back the FEDS from CONFISCATING the equipment the FEDS told the States they had the RESPONSIBILITY to procure.

That is why I am considered a troll.

Does that actually make me a troll..............

or a truth teller?

Vikki
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 7:28pm

It's unbelievable that this woman is able to dictate to every aspect of our lives. Legislators need to act! We are watching. Oh and I'm pretty sure that someone that is living in constant pain would not consider a hip replacement non-urgent.

LOL
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:11pm

Too late. The court has ruled.

Kevin Grand
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 8:21pm

Chatfield & Shirkey had their chance to stop Gov. Karen's little power trip last month. They chickened out.

Countries like Sweden with a comparable population to Michigan didn't shut their country down out of fear, and their fatality numbers are about the same as Michigan.

Ultimately, it will be the federal DoJ who will be putting a stop to Gov. Karen's actions, not the Michigan Legislature.

Mi5cents
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:06am

Actually, only the courts could potentially stop it, but that is very unlikely in this situation. Given the circumstances, her actions have been reasonable.

Correct
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:14pm

You are right, as confirmed by the court, Constitutional as all hell.

Kevin Grand
Mon, 05/04/2020 - 7:58am

So, THAT is why the courts quickly squashed that protest arrest in Detroit?

Or, dd you "forget" about that?

Jim
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:24am

Comparing Sweden with Michigan is ridiculous, other than similar populations. For starters every citizen there has very good inexpensive health care. Why didn't you compare them with the very comparable other Scandinavian countries? Sweden's cases and deaths are still increasing. The other Scandinavian countries are at a plateau or even decreasing.
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-sweden-and-norway-handled-coronaviru...

Appreciative
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:34pm

Thanks, Jim. You are absolutely right and provide citations, unlike Kevin the opinionated bloviator.

Smorgasbord
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:20pm

Actually fatality rate in Sweden is about a third lower, but numbers are trending up, while Michigan is trending down. We'll keep you posted though. That herd immunity thing hasn't worked anywhere. The people who try are just dumb procrastinators who end up looking silly.

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 3:26pm

Sweden is conducting random population testing while Michigan is not. Michigan's numbers are what a mathematician might call "statistical fraud".

10x25mm
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 8:26pm

Governor Whitmer would be well advised to review Marie Antoinette's last, sad year as the Queen of the French. Intransigence as a response to public suffering - as distinguished from inconveniencing a few government employees - often produces disastrous swings in public opinion. This situation will become acute when store shelves in Michigan's interior go empty.

Trump bought her some time DPAing meat packing operations, but our Governor seems quite creative at developing new political opponents across the state.

Let them Eat Crow
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:25pm

You underestimate the glory of being able to say, "I told you so." Once the out-state infection rates balloon, we'll all have a good laugh. Like sadly we laugh at Trump, the worst president in the history of the United States, unless you believe his Boy Wonder son-in-law, hired to work for him, corrupt nepotism, from among all the great minds in the US.

Rick Raisen
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 8:51pm

Look, let's not blame her for shutting down the economy originally. The 'experts' told us a lot of things about this virus which proved to be not true. So she shut down our state, arguing that we needed to flatten the curve. That was then. This is now.

Now we have a lot more data and information about the virus. Now is the time to change our policies and end the shut down. The curve was flattened. The virus will hit the US at a rate comparable to a bad flu season if we do nothing. Hospitals are struggling and doctors and nurses are losing their jobs. Suicide rates are spiking (per detnews), drug and alcohol and domestic abuse are on the rise, and this fine magazine has reported that vaccinations, cancer screenings, and preventive medicine are way way down. These factors mean that more people now will likely die from the shut down then will be saved from it. And obviously the economic damage is extensive- college savings wiped out, retirements gone, and dreams forever destroyed. These are facts that we now know.

When faced with new information, policies must change. Now is the time to change policies. No one cares about political parties or what happened in the past- only what we do now matters. Now we end the lockdowns.

Mi5cents
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:18am

We currently have no vaccination and very little to mitigate the effects of this virus. No one who gets it can be sure how it will impact them. The Governor is moving forward, guided by experts from various areas, and discussion with Governors of neighboring states, with a gradual reopening. Those unhappy with her handling of the situation have yet to offer a thoughtful alternative.

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:35am

Yours is the typical mistake - Assuming that the "experts" you see on FAUX NEWS actually know what they are talking about - When they don't.
Numbers don't lie.
The numbers in the media are garbage - NOT a random sample of the population and therefore NOT relevant for the population.
The studies with random samples show numbers that nobody with half a brain would panic about - Just another flu season.
And we all have to get ready to admit that this is going to mutate and become seasonal and will just be another part of the flu season.
It blows my mind how stupid so many people are. I thought we were better than this. I guess not. All of you drinking this kool-aid need to self deport to china.

Revere implodes
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:36pm

Now FUX News is too liberal for you? LOL You're a lost cause.

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 3:25pm

Not sure what you play on the F word is there but if you have something relevant to add to this conversation, please do. Otherwise, you're just wasting your time. Useless post. Try again.

middle of the mit
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 10:51pm

{{{"Yours is the typical mistake - Assuming that the "experts" you see on FAUX NEWS actually know what they are talking about - When they don't.
Numbers don't lie."}}}

Now you are calling FOX News fake news?

Please tell us where you get your REAL information!

When everything that you hear is fake even from doctors and FOX and YOU ARE THE EXPERT?

You might need help.

Telling it like...
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:29pm

The experts were and are correct. You are the reason we cannot reason with people like you. You are bright enough to realize you are a twit.

Time will tell
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 9:13pm

Let’s see where all of those states that just opened up are in a week and a half.

No way
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:31pm

Yeah, just like we see Michigan after these reckless rallies. Open the economy all you want, but who the hell wants to mix with those fools, let alone patronize their businesses? I'm not going to reward attempted murderers with my hard-earned money.

Sandy Hill
Thu, 05/07/2020 - 12:59am

Why a week and a half? There is no data, logic, or reasoning that supports evaluating the opening up of economies within a time frame of that nature. If we open up today, next month, or 3 months from now the number of cases and deaths will be the same in three years- the same number of people will catch it. There is no evidence that the 'stay home' order will lead long-term to fewer people getting sick. Haven't you seen the graphs- they show the curve flattening but the same number of people fall ill under the curve.

On the other hand, if we open now, less people will die. They'll get screened for preventable cancers, they'll get vaccinations, they'll get heart conditions looked at, they'll not lose their job and commit suicide, and they'll not abuse drug and alcohol. We know for sure that the sooner we open, less people die. So that's the route to go.

Casey
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 9:15pm

Governor Whitmer is effectively saying that her emergency power is unlimited in time/scope. If she follows her current experts advice, the Michigan economy may not reopen until sometime in 2021. Think about that...I live in the U.P. Our small rural hospital does not do joint replacement, cosmetic, or heart surgery. They do offer IV chemo to cancer patients, diagnostic CT scans, colonoscopy, endoscopy and biopsy procedure. Most of that has stopped, even though we have 5 total case of CO Vid19 in our county. One size does not fit all. I keep waiting to hear about her “regional plan” for re-opening the state. In the mean time, I can’t work out at our local Wellness Center, can’t socialize with my friends and neighbors, and am told I may only leave my home for necessary or emergency reasons. This is the State of Michigan, in the United States of America. What the hell is going on here?

Pasty patsy
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:40pm

"Casey" from the "U.P.". She's saying no such thing. You are the only one saying that, and ineffectively so.

Casey
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 9:15pm

Governor Whitmer is effectively saying that her emergency power is unlimited in time/scope. If she follows her current experts advice, the Michigan economy may not reopen until sometime in 2021. Think about that...I live in the U.P. Our small rural hospital does not do joint replacement, cosmetic, or heart surgery. They do offer IV chemo to cancer patients, diagnostic CT scans, colonoscopy, endoscopy and biopsy procedure. Most of that has stopped, even though we have 5 total case of CO Vid19 in our county. One size does not fit all. I keep waiting to hear about her “regional plan” for re-opening the state. In the mean time, I can’t work out at our local Wellness Center, can’t socialize with my friends and neighbors, and am told I may only leave my home for necessary or emergency reasons. This is the State of Michigan, in the United States of America. What the hell is going on here?

Anonymous
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 10:52am

A coup

KJMC
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 9:19pm

It's all just silly. Barr is blowing smoke, the GOP legislators are blowing smoke, and half the time the President is too. The courts are all going to rule that Governors are just doing their constitutional jobs by shutting things down like this in the midst of a global pandemic. But it's OK, we'll all most likely find out in the fall just how we dodged a bullet this spring. Then most of the same people will be whining that she didn't act fast enough.

Hooray
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:42pm

KJMC, exactly, and we're already seeing it. Trump though he blows like the wind, no convictions on anything.

sensible girl
Wed, 04/29/2020 - 9:21pm

maybe she should have worked with the other party and enacted bipartisan policies... seems like other people's opinions should matter too

Mi5cents
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:32am

Maybe the GOP should, by its actions, show us what real bipartisanship looks like. Lead by example.

middle of the mit
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 11:03pm

The statistics are on the side of a shut down. By about 10-15% or more.

A lot republicans agree with this. That is why Ohio is shut down too. I believe that the Governor tried and IS TRYING TO WORK with them. The problem is that you need people willing to work with you. And that is not what we have.

You can never allow a faction to take control over the majority. If you do.........if you give them an inch, they will take a mile.

They like to say that majority rules is tyranny.

What happens when the minority rules?

What is that called?

Mark F
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 10:29am

So the governor tried to work with them...but if you give them an inch, they will take a mile. That sounds like a real bipartisan effort (note I'm being sarcastic). And I'm not saying she isn't right...just saying your logic is why we have a problem today outside of this. We bash government when it's not the party we support, even when their actions are nearly identical (not the rhetoric, not the idiotic claims, not the political posturing) but the actual actions of their agencies (National Intelligence, CDC, Michigan Department of Public Health, State Preparedness, etc.)

My guess is if Bill Schuette won the election and was doing the exact same thing, you'd be calling on the Attorney General to criminally investigate for not doing enough somewhere, soon enough.

middle of the mit
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 4:42am

Mark F,
I see where you are coming from. And to honest I WOULD consider it suspect. The thing is, I have family who are in the middle of this downstate. And they don't question when they ask for my help for my expertise, and when they give me theirs? SAME.

The difference? Bill Shcuttee didn't do that for Flint.

I don't bash government. I understand why we NEED government. There is only one party that thinks government is bad. And that is why we are in the position that we are now.

Churches aren't helping. I shouldn't say that.......but they aren't doing what they could. Families? NO! They help those who they deem worthy. This is why republicans don't want government to help anyone. That is why when they are in charge, government always fails. They want it to!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpbbuaIA3Ds

Pink Floyd- Money

https://politicalwire.com/2020/05/02/wave-of-virus-litigation-hits-busin...

https://politicalwire.com/2020/05/02/trump-campaign-orders-red-face-masks/

https://politicalwire.com/2020/05/01/irs-mistakenly-sent-stimulus-checks...

How does that happen to good stewards of taxpayer dollars?

Mark F
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 10:37am

And by the way, DeWine is an outlier. Using him as an example as broad Republican support for shutdowns is the same as using Snyder as an example of broad Republican support for Obama Care.

middle of the mit
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 4:47am

PS!

https://politicalwire.com/2020/05/02/mississippi-governor-backtracks-on-...

Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves (R) backtracked on his plans to slowly reopen the local economy after health officials reported the highest single-day increase in coronavirus cases on Friday and new deaths since the state’s first detected case in March, ABC News reports.

Said Reeves: “Things can change quickly. We have to stay flexible. Today, I was prepared to announce further reopenings. That was the plan and I was excited to get more of our people back to work. This was a large enough change to make me take a step back… and I have come to the conclusion that I must hold on for now.”

How do ya feel about that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz-VYurYJ6o

Pink Floyd: Another Brick in the Wall

DG
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 2:18am

The people of Michigan need to recall this tyrant. She has trampled our rights, freedoms, and the constitution.

The longer she keeps an state of emergency in place, the longer she can recieve federal aid to balance the budget. Instead of doing the responsible thing and cutting spending. Typical democrat. Looking for handouts and acting like a dictator.

Mi5cents
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 8:57am

Good luck winning a recall.

Numbers don't lie
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:44pm

No kidding, we are ten million people and only a few thousand are complaining.

Actually
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 4:05pm

More like hundreds were protesting at the capitol today and there were many license plates from other states. So yeah it's all just like a little stinky fart in the grand scheme of things. Unfortunately those SOBs came and spread the virus, many without masks, without social distancing and worst of all WITH little kids and baby in tow. See photos, especially number 11 of 20:
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/04/30/capitol-prote...

Sad
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:47pm

Mi5cents, please don't feed the trolls. A lot of the protesters today in Lansing were not wearing masks or social distancing and had license plates from other states. They want to spread the virus at all costs to try to make the governor look bad. They're absolute monsters.

Dave N
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 4:00pm

Oh my God, why where you outside? I pray you were wearing a hazmat suit. Shouldn’t you be in your cave hugging an Obama doll and worshiping a picture of Comrade Gretchen? It’s because of creatures like you that I call Veterans and Memorial Days “Suckers Day”, because we vets were stupid enough to volunteer to supposedly defend arcane ideas like freedom of speech, rights to peaceably assembly, etc.. Well no more. If you think we’re just a couple thousand, it’ll be entertaining when the little bubble you live in is popped. Go back to your safe space and repeat the mantra “Orange Man Bad” over and over again.

PLombard
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 8:06am

Is it possible to get a look at that email referenced in the second paragraph?

jan d
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 8:54am

Even though I am a conservative and a Trump supporter, I was 100% behind all elected officials who had to make virus decisions in the beginning. I accepted that there would be mistakes made by all in light of the unique situation. I lost faith in our governor when she kept going on the tv shows trying to throw herself in the national spotlight. That would be ok in normal times, but I felt she should have been concentrating on her job here in Michigan not on political aspirations. Now it appears to be, more and more, that her decisions are political rather than in our state's best interest. I would like to pose some questions for the town hall tonight but I believe the subjects brought up will be sorted and polished with Democratic wax.

I call BS
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:48pm

jan d, good try at trying to sound reasonable, but no one buys it.

Remove Whitdic
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:08am

This woman from Michigan is out of control. Now that it has gotten this far, she will truly be held accountable for any patients needing essential medical care, who happened to be tossed aside due to her actions, if these patients lose their battle!! I would hate to be her because she will have lawsuits that will destroy her. I know if it is my loved one, I wouldn’t stop until she lost every ounce of her control. Seriously ready to move and get my parents out of here!!!!!!

Door slapper
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:56pm

You should try Georgia. Ba bye

Bow to the Queen
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:20am

Whitmer is enjoying her power too much to let anything reasonable happen without her ordering it. Besides, this crisis made her politically relevant and she doesn't want her time in the limelight to end anytime soon. She's hoping to have a job in Washington and won't care if she has to destroy the economy to do it.

Whitmer for VP
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:58pm

No, WE are hoping she gets a job in Washington so we know someone there cares about us.

middle of the mit
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 11:08pm

This is where I have to disagree. Sorry.

Michigan NEEDS Governor Gretchen. It isn't that I doubt the Lt. Governor Gilchrest, but we elected her.

Let her do her two terms. Let her lead the State out of this.

Then SHE can be President!

Eric Snow
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 7:58pm

It's a good bet- the Democrats have nominated someone who very likely has dementia. And he faces charges of sexual assault. And their is the corruption stemming from his sons work with China and Ukraine. If she were to become the nominee, she wouldn't have to do anything until he resigns- and say this about the Governor, she is great at doing nothing. Her most remarkable accomplish so far has been fighting hard to make sure nobody does anything in Michigan.

EB
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:46am

Whitmer was elected to office by 53.3% of Michigan's voters in 2018.

Nearly all of our legislators weren't elected to office, they were gerrymandered into office.

Whitmer is a legitimate representative, our legislators are mostly not.

Alex Chance
Mon, 05/04/2020 - 10:15am

That's an interesting argument! So you believe that we should have one branch of government run without oversight by someone who isn't supported by 46.7% of the population? You believe that there is in fact a process by which people are 'gerrymandered into office'? And you believe that our Governor is a Representative? Oh boy- you are indeed a witless supporter if you think so many things that are wrong! It's sad that you might be a voter in the coming election.

Lauren
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 10:15am

Our governor is way out of her depth. That’s understandable; she’s new at governing, and this is a massive challenge. But after a decent start, she’s making some terrible choices. Her unwillingness to work with our legislature— elected by Michiganders, just as she was — is a huge mistake.

One example: I don’t know what kind of advice she’s getting from the committees she has put together, but surely at this point hospitals can figure out how to balance helping COVID patients with other “non-essential” treatments to the benefit of all. They don’t need Ms. Whitmer to direct them. Ironically, in attempting to save people with COVID, these restrictions are now putting many others at risk. How many more healthcare workers will need to be furloughed and hospitals shuttered? Is this really about saving lives at this point?

The governor’s heavy-handedness is a sign of an insecure and inept leader. When challenged, she either talks about her feelings and how hard this is for her (witness the Wall Street Journal piece today, among others) or says she won’t compromise. No doubt she sees compromise as a sign of weakness. She’s a case study for why our governments need checks and balances, even — maybe especially — in times of emergency.

Wondering
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 1:01pm

Lauren, how do you think Trump is doing? Speaking of leaders and patients, do you think he should employ sarcasm to suggest injecting people with disinfectant?

middle of the mit
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 11:17pm

Lauren,
Both the President and the Governor are new to their jobs.

Who do you think actually listens to the people they should be listening to? The President and his supporters who call doctors and scientists "ELITIST SCUM" or the Governor?

Republicans are the people who see compromise as a dirty word. Because if you compromise with "DEMONrats" YOU are compromising with DEMONRATS.

Understand?

David W
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 10:16am

As I read these comments, I understand why many many news article comment sections have been closed. I cannot believe the vitriol that flows so freely in reaction to the articles posted on this website's news service. Being able to post comments anonymously brings out the worst in us. There is no accountability for what is said or how it is presented. I believe comments should be passed through a personal filter asking the question. "Is this something I would have the courage to say in a face to face conversation where I am known and can be held responsible?" If you cannot answer this question in the affirmative, do not make the comment.

LOL
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 1:04pm

So says an anonymous poster.........

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 3:28pm

Everything I have been saying I am also saying in person. Would love to debate anyone who disagrees with me. You're talking like a snowflake here, bud. Did the heat melt your pointy little edges? Do you need a safe space?

Dave N
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 8:29pm

Free speech is troubling for some folks. Think of it as peer review for your ideas and beliefs. Sounds like you favor censorship by calling it “Hate Speech”. Comment sections are a measure of the publication’s faith in Americans being able to voice their thoughts. If you can’t handle it, go to the Weather Channel. Hats off to Bridgemi for allowing an open forum.

middle of the mit
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 11:38pm

As soon as the conservative posters on this site and the biggest "liberal rag" in the State and those on FOX News take a conciliatory tone in their reporting, why should you expect anything different?

People are posting are their true feelings. Are you upset that conservatives are all but calling out for an armed revolution? What were they doing at the Capital with their guns?

I tried on this website to help a lady who told me her husband wanted to dig a french drain after complaining about not being able to purchase said products to accomplish it. I advised her to purchase the drain tube at her local hardware store or big box store because it was in the plumbing aisle.

She retorted to me that her father in law had a heart attack after using my advice. Why was her father in law doing what she told me her husband would be doing?

You conservatives will conflate ANYTHING. I am still waiting to see boats on my lake when it is 45 degrees.

It's not because this is the way I want to be. It is the only way I can deal with your "perception" of reality.

Would you like to prove me wrong? Go waterskiing right now! With NO wet suit!

Heck, I would just like to see you out there fishing with your pants and a sweatshirt on.

You were complaining about not being able to use your motor boats.

DO IT!

Better get that winter gear out again. It's cold when there is nothing to block the wind.

I am still trying to get meteorologists to tell me when wind chill gives way to heat index.

This isn't that time of year yet.

Jake K.
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 10:53am

It's a shame that politics have to be part of this crisis. Both parties are to blame. The continual TV/press appearances by the Governor smack of partisan politics and party campaigning. The personal pronouns of "I, I, I, My, My, My," are becoming sickening. How about a "we" referencing the complete citizenry and state government? How can the Governor accuse the Republicans of political posturing when she includes a labor union official in her recent appearance? Not only did she criticize the previous state administration and current federal administration, but so did he. Political posturing? Absolutely. While WE should be addressing the crisis our Governor is campaigning and pandering to the Democratic voting base. Shameful.

I call BS
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 1:06pm

Wow "Jake K", your post seems very nonpartison. NOT

What a hypocrite!

middle of the mit
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 11:42pm

Unlike when the President talks about MY ratings, when the Governor says I,I,I and MY, My, MY she is referring to her and her administration.

In other words she isn't worried about her "ratings".

SHE IS TAKING RESPONSIBILITY.

When is the President going to take a cue from Governor Gretchen?

Ned Birkey
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 10:57am

I just finished reading Congressman John Dingell's book. In it he mentions a statement by his friend Gerald Ford, "Compromise is the oil that makes government run."

NO WAY
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 1:10pm

Compromise is great with consenting adults, but not with people wrapped in confederate flags, including a GOP senator in our sacred palace of democracy.

Pat Nelson
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:13pm

The article cites Republican representatives mentioning constituents contacting them to challenge the governor's orders.

I expect I am not the only constituent to contact my (Republican) legislators to urge them to prioritize urgent health issues over this squabbling. How about acknowledging our voices?

Job well done
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 1:08pm

No, Pat, you are not alone. There is a mostly silent majority that gladly supports the efforts of governor.

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 3:32pm

My data points indicate the opposite - There is a mostly silent majority who are arming themselves to the teeth and making rapid preparations for total self sufficiency as they are expecting the entire country to fall apart as the result of this dementia. I agree with them. These are signs of the times. All of you sympathizers with this tyranny are totally incapable of sustaining yourselves and need(want!) someone to take care of you, to tell you how to think, to tell you who to vote for.
I believe this means civil war within the decade. That is absolutely terrifying. Horrible. All I can do is do the same - Prepare, pay off our debts, increase our self sufficiency, and help as many of my employees, friends, and family do the same.
Hard times are coming. Right now is NOT a hard time.

Carlos Arturo
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 1:14pm

Once upon a time...
The Church (Powerful entity for centuries) put to death all who held a realistic view of Planet Earth evolving around the Sun... Earth been round not Flat...
The power of gross ignorance then as now inflicts more harm to humanity than reality!
Seems that when it came to POWER brokerage the Vatican shared the political mis guidance of modern days "Democrats"
Madam governor of Michigan, Speaker of the "House" NP.
These two -CREATURES- do not care about We The People! They are Power thirsty vultures!!!
Their LUST for power as well as their willingness to give the finger to Michigan Citizens & USA in general is beyond political gamesmanship.
Acting in the legality of their testosterone lacking world, makes child play of what the Castros, Somosas, Stalins, even Adolf tried to accomplish in their respective place and times...
The beauty of "Democracy" : Majority "Rules" / Consensus... affords every moron in office the -Legality- of office!

middle of the mit
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:06am

Are you really trying to tell us that the Church as it was then and is now a liberal constituency? You can not be that dense, can you? We have been all been told that those you name at the end of your post are commies. Godless commies.

Ohhhh are you talking about the Catholic Church? Was Europe Catholic after Martin Luther? NO? Who is it that wants the Bible to take precedence? The same people who apparently during Galileo's time didn't read the Book of Job? or many others?

https://www.openbible.info/topics/the_earth_orbiting_the_sun

And then you call the Governor and the Speaker of the House "creatures"?

What would you prefer? Minority rules?

Ok! Let us have it your way!

Black Americans are ready to have their turn.

oHHHHHH pooopy!!

NOT THAT MINORITY!!!!

Carlos Arturo
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 1:26pm

Striking similarities with Madam governor and Speaker of the house...
Both lacking testosterone experiences, overly compensate with the legality of a democratic process in which the majority of morons elect power lustful creatures into office to destroy the greatest social experiment in human history that started back in 1776...

Cathy
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 1:54pm

What I remember: 2016 Congressional Republicans quietly closed a year-long investigation into Flint, Michigan’s crisis over lead in its drinking water, faulting both state officials and the Environmental Protection Agency for contamination that has affected nearly 100,000 residents.
I won't trust any republican to make decisions for the public.

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 3:36pm

Really?
How many people died from lead poisoning?
How many people tested with lead levels in their body that weren't considered acceptable even just 20 years ago?
What was the acceptable lead content of the body back when the boomer generation, who have had one of the longest life expectancies of the past 100 years, were growing up?
You know if you ask basic questions like this and look at factual data you'll realize that all that hysteria was almost as much of a joke as this coronavirus hysteria is.
You idiot.
Flint was all about a bunch of partisan fighting and disinformation to sway the votes of a city of voters. Convince them that they were wronged; Convince them that they deserve something in return; Convince them that if they vote the way you tell them to, they will get this something that they've been convince that they deserve.

middle of the mit
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:09am

People don't generally die from lead poisoning. They suffer consequences. Maybe you should look it up.

Oh that's right.

You are an expert on ALL THINGS.

In that case........

I have this wart in an area that I can't reach.............

Revere
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:56pm

Mit,
Did you actually have some data on that? For this boomer group who had significantly higher lead levels in their body yet had an amazing life expectancy, likely better than this latest generation based on current trends?
Or did you just want to disagree, without any facts to argue your point (because you had no point and no argument)?
Nice. You like to disagree. It's a free country, you can do that. If, however, you fail to bring an actual argument to the table, you just look like an idiot. Personally, I think you're a communist at heart, and that, in my opinion, is a deportable offense. I'd send you straight to china.

middle of the mit
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 5:12am

Revere,
What you are asking for is numbers and statistics from experts that I don't currently have on hand. But since YOU ARE the expert, why didn't provide them?

The only proof that I need to make my assumption true is that DONALD J. TRUMP was voted into office BY YOUR GENERATION!!

And, YOU gave us FREE TRADE!

Are you sure you want to keep digging?

https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements

Revere
Mon, 05/04/2020 - 11:07pm

So instead of attempting to refute anything I said with even a shred of factual data, you just vomited TDS goo all over me.

Gross.

It's orange.

Stop it.

Elva Garcia
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 2:22pm

I pray for you, thank you for standing your ground in protecting us with all those protesting against u they should all be home not there .You took a oath to do your job and in pandemic that this nation is faced with people losing their lifes it so sad that people are not taking this serious it is a silent killer...they are out with no ppe , weapons . I see signs that are threats which are not good ...i for one give applause and thank for protecting us ...till the time come we can all return to our jobs and the new norm moving forward each thanking God for another day . One thing that would take alot of stress of individuals would be unemployment system and handling claims in a timely manner .they need funds to provide for their families. Thank you again for everything that you are doing to keep us safe and opening up the economy in a timely safe manner

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:45pm

Elva Garcia, you stasi-sympathizing, useless piece of excrement,
ICE is coming for you. They're going to deport you. You'd better run.

Tammy Longcore
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 6:49pm

Does she realize she has taken federal money? The first step in grant writing is if you take federal money law applies. Her EO violates so many federal laws, regulations and code. Our state will not survive if she continues. We don’t know her procedures or who is acting with her. She is a public official not a dictator.

Rick
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:16pm

'Sheppard said, describing what he called “failures” at the Unemployment Insurance Agency, where there have been long wait times for the state’s 1 million unemployed workers...'

So whose unemployment system was this? The GOP's perfect unemployment system where it was designed to deny more than 90% of the claims submitted. And no one was held accountable for that. No one.

Jill Roe
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 9:45pm

Joe Biden, or anyone else nominated by the Democrats, will follow the radical left’s agenda (or Joe won't get their support) Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi, Sheila Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, Al Green, Beto O'Rourke, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Talib, Ayanna Pressley and llhan Omar. A rogues gallery of socialists, communists and far left radicals who have plans for our tax dollars.

Democrat Platform & Goals: AKA The Freebie Platform.
(Taxpayers pay close attention)

-End all deportations of illegal aliens, if you get here, you stay. Bernie's website calls it a "moratorium" on deportations.

-De-fund & terminate border patrol & ICE.

-"Medicare care for all" Free Health Care for Illegal aliens, TPS recipients (taxpayer funded with one estimate at 52 trillion)

-Ending of all private / employer based health care. Feds run everything.

-Welfare & Food Stamps for illegal aliens. (Elizabeth Warrens plan adopted)

-College for all, including illegal aliens. (tax payer funded)

-Decriminalization of illegal entry into our country.

-Citizenship for 20 to 50 million illegal aliens, DACA & TPS recipients with a cost of billions.

-Sanctuary Cities & States.

-Open Borders.

-Massive tax increases. Of course, how else can they pay for the freebies? All Democrat candidates have committed to tax increases of various amounts.

-Reparations for race's harmed by Caucasians. (Joe along with the other candidates committed this to "Reverend" Al Sharpton.) Sheila Jackson Lee's racist reparations bill in the House.

-Joe Biden's 2 trillion climate change plan.

-Drivers licenses for illegal aliens.(already happening in states with Democrat leadership)

-Opposed to ANY voter ID Laws.(Nancy wanted this in the first corona virus bill)

-AOC's green new deal.(which would create massive unemployment, 100,000 jobs estimated in the transportation industry alone.)

*Sources: Joe positions are clearly outlined on his website.

Greg
Wed, 05/06/2020 - 6:44am

Can't wait to see what her budget looks like for next year. Higher taxes and less services but hey, Covid. Still waiting for that huge surge.

Richard Mc
Sat, 05/23/2020 - 3:27pm

Actually, she seems intent on destroying the economy, using COVID as a pretext.