Whitmer extends Michigan emergency to May 28, as GOP threatens lawsuit

Hundreds of protesters gathered at the Michigan Capitol on Thursday as the Republican-led legislature sought to limit Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s authority. (Bridge photos by Jonathan Oosting)

May 7 update: Michigan stay-at-home order extended to May 28
May 6 update: GOP-led Legislature sues Michigan Gov. Whitmer over emergency powers
May 4 update: Mike Shirkey: Heed Gov. Whitmer’s COVID orders now. We’ll sue later.

LANSING —  A dramatic standoff between Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and Republican lawmakers over her emergency powers during the coronavirus pandemic appears headed to the courts after a dizzying day at the Michigan Capitol. 

Late Thursday, Whitmer signed new declarations extending Michigan’s state of emergency until May 28, and continued the closure of bars, casinos and restaurant dining rooms through that same date.

The actions came shortly after the GOP-led Legislature denied her request to extend an expiring emergency declaration and authorized legal action to challenge the governor’s authority. 

The marathon day began with another protest at the Capitol over Whitmer’s stay-at-home orders, including some militia members who carried long guns. 

They sided with Republican lawmakers, who contend Whitmer has abused her powers by refusing legislative input on plans to reopen the economy. The Legislature will take Whitmer to court “if she does not recognize the end of the emergency declaration" under a 1976 law, said Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey. 

“We can no longer allow one person to make decisions for 10 million people,” Shirkey, R-Clarklake, said in a floor speech concluding a nine-hour session. 

“Citizens count on a government structure of checks and balances.  The Legislature is the voice of the people and we must have a seat at the table to ensure the concerns of our constituents are considered as part of every decision-making process.”

Democrats blasted the action as political theater because a 1945 law appears to give the governor authority to continue emergency action without legislative approval. 

Whitmer accused Republicans of “putting their heads in the sand” and “putting more lives and livelihoods at risk.” 

“We remain in a state of emergency,” Whitmer said in a virtual town hall on mid-Michigan television stations. “That is a fact. For anyone to declare, ‘Mission accomplished,’ means that they're turning a blind eye to the fact that over 600 people have died in the last 72 hours.”

Both chambers approved legislation that would extend some of the individual orders Whitmer has issued amid the crisis — but not her stay-at-home order set to last through May 15, nor an order prohibiting “non-essential” medical procedures during the pandemic.

“The entire framework of our system of government was built on the idea of separation of powers,” said House Speaker Lee Chatfield, R-Levering, who has urged Whitmer to relax business rules and speed economic recovery plans she previewed earlier this week. 

“We believe you can prioritize public health, yet be reasonable in your approach to fighting COVID-19,” he said.

The back and forth came as COVID-19 cases appear to have plateaued at nearly 42,000 cases statewide. But Whitmer said the numbers are growing in some parts of the state and vigilance is warranted to avoid a second wave.

“I am not going to make decisions about our public health based on political games,” she said. “I'm going to make them based on the best science, the best data, what the epidemiologists and public health experts are telling us.”

Despite the legal threat from GOP leaders, attorneys who spoke with Bridge Magazine questioned whether the Legislature has any recourse to challenge Whitmer in court. 

The governor’s “statutory authority seems to me at least, crystal clear on its face," said John Pirich, a elections lawyer who has worked for Republicans but backed Whitmer in the 2016 election. He added the pandemic is “the equivalent to a wartime situation. These are extraordinary circumstances." 

Steve Liedel, a government policy attorney who served as chief legal counsel to former Gov. Jennifer Granholm, said the law gives Whitmer broad emergency powers, but the Legislature can shape policy during the pandemic with appropriations and hearings.

"It's one thing to saber rattle and threaten to sue someone," Liedel said. "It's another thing to have a recognizable legal claim of action."

No negotiations

The drama came one day after negotiations broke down between Whitmer and Republicans over her handling of the virus that has killed nearly 3,800 state residents as of Thursday.

Republican leaders have asked Whitmer to reopen the economy by region and business sector, an approach she appears to be taking in a plan she is developing with business, labor and health advisers.

But negotiations faltered Wednesday after Whitmer’s office released an email in which she rejected Shirkey’s offer of two, one-week emergency extensions. He argued the move amounted to a “double middle finger” and showed the governor has grown “comfortable being a dictator.”

Before Whitmer’s orders on Thursday night, Republicans approved legislation that would allow dine-in restaurants, bars, theaters, gyms, casinos and yacht clubs to reopen by May 15, but require them to enact social distancing policies until May 30.

Senate Minority Leader Jim Ananich, D-Flint, argued Republicans were attempting to strip power from Whitmer because of “perceived slights” dating back to a tense budget battle last year. 

“In the middle of a global pandemic are we that petty? Is our ego that fragile?” he asked. “Can’t we find ways to sit down and reason as men and women cross the aisle and find solutions?”

But Republicans accused Whitmer of refusing their recommendations during the pandemic, arguing she has ignored the voice of the people they represent. 

“The arrogance is shameful and beneath the dignity of the office of governor,” said Sen. Aric Nesbitt, R-Lawton.  “If the governor vetoes this legislation, it's simply because she wants 100 percent control over all the decisions in the state.”

State Rep. Tyrone Carter who contracted COVID-19 last month, applauded Whitmer’s stay-at-home orders. 

“Maybe I would have spread it, but [did not] thanks to decisive action by the state — not the federal government,” said Carter, D-Detroit.

Detroit has been among the hardest hit cities in the country, and although coronavirus cases have slowed there, lawmakers from the city accused rural Republicans of failing to appreciate the magnitude of the pandemic. 

“In my district, colleagues, there are trailer coolers in hospital parking lots where deceased loved ones are stored,” said state Rep. Leslie Love, D-Detroit. “There are funerals being held in church parking lots because the pastor is afraid to allow parishoners to congregate inside.”

“I'm glad I have a governor who cares about all lives,” Love continued. “Offering this bill in the midst of a planet pandemic is like offering a person four squares after the bad diarrhea episode. It's useless.”

State Rep. Lynn Afendoulis, R-Grand Rapids Township, argued that “power rests in no single individual” and called Whitmer’s unilateral actions “un-American.”

“I’m disappointed in the governor, and I think shame on her for stoking the fear she has been stoking when she could be reassuring the masses,” Afendoulis said. 

Protests

Hundreds of protesters began gathering on the Capitol lawn at around 9 a.m. Thursday, urging the Legislature to fight Whitmer’s emergency authority and reprising the “lock her up” chant President Donald Trump encouraged in his 2016 campaign against Hillary Clinton. 

Many carried signs criticizing the governor, including one that read "Tyrants Get the Rope." Fewer wore the kind of face coverings that local, state and federal health officials continued to recommend. 

Militia members walked the grounds with long guns and walkie talkies, acting as what organizers touted as a “security detail.” Some protesters openly carried guns into the Capitol, where Sen. Dayna Polehanki, D-Livonia, said colleagues who own bulletproof vests had chosen to wear them. 

Speakers outside the Capitol disputed publicly reported data on Michigan deaths, offered legal theories on Whitmer’s emergency authority and preached civil disobedience.

“I just feel that our civil liberties and our constitutional rights are being taken from us one by one,” said Wendy Ensing, a protester from Grand Rapids. “I’m just out here to defend those, even for those that don’t feel the same way. We’re all in the same boat here.”

Ensing said she’s been personally impacted because she and her husband own two companies, including a real estate firm that is no longer allowed to “conduct business as usual” under Whitmer’s stay-at-home order.

“I understand that there are health issues that we need to be concerned about, but I think it could have gone a long better and not been so stringent,” she said. “I want to see Whitmer and our government open everything up.”

Karl Haus of Fraser carried a rifle and protest sign as he demonstrated outside the Capitol without a mask. 

“It’s my right, as is my right to go out as I please,” he said. “If you don’t exercise your rights, you don’t know that they exist.”

Haus said he works in landscaping and did not stop last month despite Whitmer’s previous order that had prohibited landscaping companies from operating under threat of a misdemeanor charge or fine. 

“I had some work to do,” he said. “It was disobedience. Illegal laws are not supposed to be adhered too.”

Whitmer has already faced a series of lawsuits over her emergency actions. She prevailed in one case on Wednesday in the Michigan Court of Claims, where Judge Christopher Murray said her stay-at-home orders were “necessary” to combat the public health crisis. 

“Although the Court is painfully aware of the difficulties of living under the restrictions of these executive orders, those difficulties are temporary, while to those who contract the virus and cannot recover (and to their family members and friends), it is all too permanent,” wrote Murray, who was deputy legal counsel to Republican former Gov. John Engler. 

— Staff reporter Riley Beggin contributed to this article.

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Dave N
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 4:09pm

“As militia members stalked the grounds”, the brave overlords donned their bullet proof vests. What courage! I’ll give those heroic reps some addresses they can visit in Detroit, Flint and Benton Harbor to see if those vests will actually work. Flowery prose indeed from this gifted reporter and as always “Orange Man Bad”.

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:42pm

Bullet proof vests are in fact not bullet proof. They only stop slow/small bullets. This is why you don't see them listing any deer rifle calibers on the ratings - They may stop an AR-15 and other "assault rifle" (i.e. "neutered civilian defense rifle") bullets, but they won't stop a deer rifle bullet nor many shotgun slugs! This is why you won't see many of them in detroit - Few criminals carry "assault rifles". I'd be willing to bet there are more criminals with deer rifles in their house than "assault" rifles because they are "in the know" on this issue.

To crazy "Revere"
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 9:11am

"Few criminals carry 'assault rifles'. " Only the most dangerous criminals, domestic terrorists.

Plant eater
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 4:38pm

When you eat road kill, you don't care if meat packing plants are full of sick covid workers.

Revere
Sat, 05/02/2020 - 11:46am

"Too crazy",
How exactly do you turn a post about firearm facts into that comment?
Sounds like someone is crazy here, and that person is you.

I call BS
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:14pm

“'We can no longer allow one person to make decisions for 10 million people,' Shirkey, R-Clarklake, said in a floor speech concluding a nine-hour session."

Yet I haven't heard of any of these people protesting against Trump ONE person who called a national emergency, told us to shelter in place and listen to our governors. He even said he is a wartime president. ONE person telling about 330 million people what their rights are.

Let's keep in mind, what all those attorneys in the article who have ties to the GOP say about Whitmer's authority: It's LEGAL.

Let's also keep in mind that the couple hundred protesters are about the same amount of people in Michigan who die in a given day. So those malcontents might not even be here tomorrow. Let's be real, there's probably about more than 9 million silent people who live here that are not protesting.

My suggestion is for the protesters, if they truly believe this pandemic is a hoax or nothing to worry about, to go to DC and stay there until Trump calls off the national emergency. Demand your constitutional rights, your right to assemble, your right to free speech, your rights to bear arms, your rights to religion, and whatever other rights you feel have been taken away. Just stop spreading the virus here. The rest of us want to reopen the economy and think the governor is acting legally, responsibly, intelligently, and compassionately, notwithstanding all your impediments. Hell, you make me want to canonize her with all your BS.

Kathi Geukes
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 10:34am

Exactly!! Tell the bozos to come to the Capitol without the mechanical paraphernalia that can kill 50 people in 10 seconds, and maybe...just maybe someone will listen to them. Shouting in someone's face is not going to get you what you want.

Easy Peasy
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 4:33pm

We just need to build a wall around the capitol when they hold the next protest. Build a wall around the churches holding services. Build a wall around the nursing homes. Build a wall around the prisons, and build a wall around Kent county. We can make it a New Deal project and make Michigan great again.

Kevin Grand
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 5:04pm

So, Sen. Polehanki can find the time to update her social media from the floor of the Senate, but cannot find the time to do her job?

Sad.

David Waymire
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 5:48pm

Making sure her constituents know what is going on in the Capitol is part of her job. It's also smart politics. Suburban women are the key to winning elections in Michigan. Making sure they know that cosplaying posers pretending to be thugs to intimidate lawmakers into endangering children and grandparents is good way to help Michigan go bluer next year.

Fingers crossed
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 9:15am

I sure as hell don't want to empower these lunatic protesters who are recklessly putting me and my family at greater risk from COVID19. I love the transparency to see photos of them without masks, with children and babies, and assault weapons. All that is sanctioned and encouraged by the Michigan GOP. Vote big blue wave in November if this bothers you!

amorr
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:16am

I think it is sad you have time to criticize, when a bunch of nut jobs were threatening these people are work. Wow, guns in place of manliness. Morons. I think these people abuse the 2nd amendment and it is sickening.

Kevin Grand
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 7:49am

Speaking as someone who was actually there, tell me this: EXACTLY who was threatened Thursday afternoon? This does NOT mean people who felt threatened.

Or, let me break it down even more, did anyone with a firearm in the Senate Chamber fire at any time (accidentally or on purpose)?

Did anyone with a firearm AT ANY TIME point them over the railing or towards the floor?

Did anyone with a firearm even get onto the Senate Floor yesterday to disrupt that session which was punctuated with VERY LONG and multiple recesses and caucus breaks?

Since the media has done an outstanding job of spinning the narrative to gin up yet even more paranoia (this is an Oosting piece, after all), let me break down the answers so that even you can comprehend: No one, no, no and no!

Go and project your fear and insecurity elsewhere.

WM
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 9:23am

If I walk into your place of work with a gun and ammo on full display, would you feel threatened?

Math Sux
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 2:16pm

If you carry your firearm properly, are not showing "crazy eyes", or otherwise acting like a lunatic, why would I be nervous? Should I be nervous when I walk into a police station, a gun store, or meet a group of birdhunters at the end of a fence row?

Your irrational fear of firearms is about YOU, not other people.

Disgusted
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 9:25am

"Speaking as someone who was actually there, tell me this: EXACTLY who was threatened Thursday afternoon?" EVERYONE, we are in a viral pandemic and you people were potentially spreading it among yourselves, then taking it back to your local communities, in Michigan and throughout the country. There were reportedly many vehicles with out-of-state license plates. Can't believe you think it's okay for people to gather with children and babies and a highly contagious virus, without masks, outdoors and indoors, not to mention the assault weapons.

oSo
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 10:13am

So they didn't bring their pacifiers to be threatening and imposing, but because they needed their support weapons to feel encouraged enough to be among others. So their not cosplaying thugs but in fact just sad, scared, little delicate boys, I got it. Thanks for clearing that up for us!

Olivia Bruce
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 11:32am

Thank you, finally a voice of reason. By the time WhitHiller decides it's safe enough to open, there will be no economy left to resuscitate.
We were supposed to shut down to allow the medical community to prepare , so that they would not be overwhelmed, not shut down until the Chinese Virus is eradicated.
I understand that the Detroit area is suffering, but lumping all of Michigan into a one size fits all is making the cure worse than the disease.
If our Dictator WhitHitler really understood economics, she would look at the individual counties and open those who pose no threat. She will kill all of Michigan in an effort to save the bluest part of it, DETROIT. Let us not forget, she's auditioning for VP, and while it's controversial press, she's still getting a lot of attention from the media.

Bernadette
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:02pm

Little boys have to carry guns to prove how "manly" they are. You are all spoiled little boys from what I can see.

Malarkey
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 3:15am

Good thing you weren't around in 1776 lol...I've been to one of the protests, we have a Constitutional right to have firearms. We seem to have an Authoritarian in the Governor's mansion, it is a reminder to her that we still have Constitutional rights. It was so important to the Founders, that they made it the 2nd Amendment. People like you seem to care little for the Bill of Rights, but it means a lot to the rest of us...it guarantees freedoms for all Americans. Why is that so hard for feeble-minded people to comprehend?

Appreciative
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 6:24pm

"this is an Oosting piece, after all"

Excellent reporter.

Kevin Grand
Sat, 05/02/2020 - 9:12am

Go and post under your real name Jonathan.

Threw up in mouth
Mon, 05/04/2020 - 10:53am

Update her social media? Trump would never do that. [sarcasm] Imagine a day without a Trump Tweet.

10x25mm
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 5:36pm

I am so old, I remember being taught in civics that government consisted of three coequal branches. Not today's two branch. Executive-Judicial cabal.

Michigan's various recent political disasters can be directly traced to arrogation of power, explicitly enforced by our Judicial branch.

It is worth noting that there are no spontaneous demonstrations supporting the CoC ruling or, more broadly, our Governor. Nor will there be.

middle of the mit
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:41am

Is that why Mitch "get back to work and contract a virus" McConnel is wanting the senate to back to work so the country can have regressive judges to make LAW for them?

Do you know why are there no spontaneous demonstrations in support of the Governor?

WE ARE FOLLOWING THE LAW OH LAW ABIDING ONE!

Also, we don't want to spread a VIRUS!

Who arrogated power? YOU would prefer the minority rule, as long as the minority is white males conservatives. Isn't that right?

Don't be shy.

oSo
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 10:16am

Clearly they're old, but not old enough. If boomers retained half the sense of the Greatest Generation we wouldn't have these idiots cosplaying at the Capitol steps. You morons are the equivalent of Nazi sympathizers in 1936

Revere
Sat, 05/02/2020 - 1:59am

Mit, you've lost it.
You sucking back on grandpa's old medicine bottle?

I call BS
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 9:33am

Are you old enough to remember our sacrifices during WW2, blood, sweat, and tears? We didn't pose downtown with assault weapons. We were in the trenches giving our lives for our country. You disgust me with your "phony" patriotism. This governor is clearly acting with legal authority granted by the legislature and confirmed in court by the state emergency laws. The legislature now is clearly ONLY interested in political showmanship, not in upholding the rule of law that they enacted. This is the absolutely wrong time to try and undermine the governor or future governors.

Anonymous
Thu, 05/07/2020 - 1:15am

Are you old enough to remember the race riots in Detroit or LA or NY in 1943? Surely you remember Executive Order 9066 and the internment of the Japanese-Americans? Maybe you remember the popularity of the German American Bund in 1939? Or the resurgence of the KKK in the 1940s/1950s? Those all happened to- one wonders if things would have turned out better for many people back then if they had resisted and questioned the authority of fascist, communist, socialist Democratic politicians.

Happy
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 6:11pm

Why’d cant they do it by County?
Detroit (Wayne County) clearly has the only material issue.
Seems reasonable

Unhappy
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:04pm

The curve is blunted in Detroit, cases are rising in the douchebag parts of the state.

LMAO
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 6:21pm

I think reigning in a governor during a national and state emergency is a waste of time from a legal perspective. You heard it here first! Can't wait to say I told you so. Ha ha

Regina Weiss
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 7:46pm

Emergencies during peacetime are usually how dictators take power, civil liberties are eroded, property rights are violated, and lives are lost. In 1936 Winston Churchill saw what was happening in Germany and gave a speech in which he stated "WE must not be led into adopting for ourselves the very evils of war in time of peace upon any pretext whatever. .. Every self-respecting citizen in every country must be on his guard lest the rulers demand of him in time of peace sacrifices only tolerable in a period of war for national self-preservation."

Your laughter in the face of these efforts by our Governor is telling. Churchill recognized the type of leader that Whitmer is. The only question left is whether our state is filled with self-respecting citizens who value civil liberties and property rights, or whether our state is filled with sheep waiting to be fleeced and slaughtered by the elites that rule us.

Frank
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 8:11pm

Heil Whitmer!

Cutting in line
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:03pm

Hey Regina Weiss, you must have forgotten that Trump called the national emergency. Then he told everyone to listen to their governors.

Anonymous
Sat, 05/02/2020 - 3:34pm

Which declaration are you referring to? The one where he loosened regulations in order to expedite cures and treatments? Or the one where he invoked the Stafford Act to allow states to apply for loans? Whatever, it doesn't matter- neither of those "told everyone to listen to their governors", none of them told anyone to follow every idiotic rule that a governor might pronounce, and none of them shut down Michigan's economy. Maybe instead of cutting in line you should wait in line and think longer about what you are going to say.

Math Sux
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:29am

Unfortunately, you are expecting people to have the appropriate historical context. We are failing as a nation by no longer teaching the lessons of history.

Only fear to fear
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:06pm

Says the homeschooler. LOL By history I'm guessing you're glossing over the Spanish Flu pandemic.

JLK
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:20pm

If you'd studied history as you've claimed, you would recognize that the fascist elements that allowed Hitler to rise to power (on the assertion that the few Jews in Germany were somehow to blame for the economic woes that persisted following World War I) were the real driving force. All of that is absent here. You're also supposing that a governor has WAY more power than she does. It's not like she's trying to invade Ohio. Good Lord. . . you people take random bits of history and allow yourselves to twist it into things just because you're angry that the world sucks right now. I get it. But stop acting like this is more than it is. This disease spreads like crazy. It appears that there are likely to be additional repercussions to infection over time that we're only just beginning to understand (heart trauma. . .lung trauma. . .neurological issues based on the symptom of lost taste and smell). But yes, let's stick our heads in the sand and pretend like this is just an ordinary flu . . . that kills as many people in months as the flu kills in a year. . . and go about business as usual.

Dan
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 7:53pm

Yep. Bunch of idiots, those Republican lawmakers. Do your job and let the governor do hers! (which she is doing quite well BTW)

Construction worker
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 8:08pm

The governor is doing a horrible job and has been since she was elected.

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:43pm

"Dan" is actuall the governor herself, posting on articles about herself. She's this crazy. No, wait, she's crazier than that even

Don't revere th...
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:09pm

Really? Then who am I because I agree. You're wishful thinking otherwise there would be more than a couple hundred protesters with many driving vehicles from other states.

amorr
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:23am

And the people protesting are horrible citizens. They will pass this disease to store workers, children, their grandparents, or healthcare workers. They should have to sign a document saying they won't take medical care if they get Covid 19. What I think is hilarious, is it is always the Trump supporter types who are whining and crying like a bunch of brats. They must not even have one months savings and who's fault is that? Theirs, no one else's but theirs. Then, because they are not intelligent, they have to try and intimidate people with their stupid guns. The best part is if they do spread it around, it might just help to thin the herd, so they might be doing us a favor.

Karma
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:14pm

I truly believe that's God's plan. We want to protect ourselves and the vulnerable. They are on a murderous suicide mission play with the plague and guns. What can go wrong with that? They are devil spawn and God will curse them, like he already has. Just google protesters now dead from coronavirus. One has to wonder how many innocent people were killed or sickened by their stupidity. Dante said there's a special place in hell for people who deceive.

Revere
Sat, 05/02/2020 - 2:01am

Amorr,
No, actually they won't, because the number show that this "disease" is absolutely zero threat to anyone who isn't very old and already sick.
Boom, roasted. You gonna call the fire department? You should.

amorr
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:23am

And the people protesting are horrible citizens. They will pass this disease to store workers, children, their grandparents, or healthcare workers. They should have to sign a document saying they won't take medical care if they get Covid 19. What I think is hilarious, is it is always the Trump supporter types who are whining and crying like a bunch of brats. They must not even have one months savings and who's fault is that? Theirs, no one else's but theirs. Then, because they are not intelligent, they have to try and intimidate people with their stupid guns. The best part is if they do spread it around, it might just help to thin the herd, so they might be doing us a favor.

Ed
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 10:28am

In your case I would have to agree.

Anonymous
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 11:22am

There is no evidence of this. Let's try not to just make stuff up on here.

Anonymous
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 8:53pm

The governor's job is not to create legislation, that is the job of the legislature. Creating legislation is what her executive orders are doing.

JLK
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:24pm

There is legislation that gives the executive power to use during public health emergencies. She is executing the law by using that power in a public health emergency. You should drop the Anonymous label and give us the info on where you've hung your shingle. Clearly you're a brilliant legal mind. Why hide that with the "Anonymous" comment?

JLK Is an idiot
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 12:36pm

The 1945 legislation does not mention public health emergencies. Nor has it ever been used that way in its 75 year existence. So... you are wrong.

Rick
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 11:08am

The legislature is attempting to do their job! The governor is preventing them from doing so. A clear abuse of power.

Doc
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 6:23pm

Anyone knows you can convince a doctor to call a medical procedure essential. So I don't buy that BS.

Anonymous
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:21pm

So your argument is that the solution to these laws is to engage in illegal behavior? I totally get it- you're a big fan of gun laws because you know they'll only block law-abiding citizens and not do anything to stop criminals. You support telling people to not go to the doctor, unless they and the doctor lie about it being essential (committing fraud). You're a real piece of work, Doc.

Social Worker
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 6:32pm

Aside for the middle aged and old people there, why did these protesters not wear masks and bring children and babies to this viral cocktail?

People inside the capitol without masks!

Scroll through the photos, especially number 4, 19, 23, 26, 27, 29-32 out of 32.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/04/30/capitol-prote...

These people deserve to get infected, if not arrested for breaking the law, but that aside someone should call child protective services!

Logic over fear
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 8:57pm

So, you’re saying if you don’t wear a mask outside, the state should be able to take your children from you. Interesting concept, how about if you smoke in a house with children, or if you have weed at home, or alcohol? What other reasons should the state be able to take your children. It’s a cute idea, that way the government can raise your children to become mindless dependents of the state. Sounds like a bad idea too me, but I enjoy freedom.

Sorry not sorry
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:25pm

Yep, you have no right to put your children in harm's way.

Kevin Grand
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 8:12am

I hope that "Social Worker" is just an internet handle and not your real job.

Arresting people for exercising a clearly enumerated right in the US & Michigan Constitutions?

PETA
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:26pm

I hope you treat your dog better than those idiots treat their children.

Avenged
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 9:52am

They didn't wear masks because it is illegal to open carry and wear a mask. And really unless you are wearing an N95 other masks offer very little protection from Covid . I do agree why bring the little children to a protest ?

Revere
Sat, 05/02/2020 - 2:02am

Tell me, "social worker", how many "babies" have died from coronavirus vs. influenza last year?
Tell me.
And then hang your head in shame. You dolt.

Writing on the wall
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 6:38pm

I know most of these posters don't bother to read the articles. They just spout their ignorant opinions. So consider this:

Detroit has been among the hardest hit cities in the country, and although coronavirus cases have slowed there, lawmakers from the city accused rural Republicans of failing to appreciate the magnitude of the pandemic.

“In my district, colleagues, there are trailer coolers in hospital parking lots where deceased loved ones are stored,” said state Rep. Leslie Love, D-Detroit. “There are funerals being held in church parking lots because the pastor is afraid to allow parishoners to congregate inside.”

Wake up you knuckleheads! Is this the way you want to be remembered as someone in a trailer cooler waiting for your outdoor funeral? Do you know a five year old died in Detroit, along with many people in their forties, fifties? You are playing with fire and God does not like it. So make that hell fire.

Dave N
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 8:19pm

Yeah, I read the article and then went over to Detroit’s crime statistics after reading your comment. Since you are so concerned about pre-mature deaths, what are you doing about all the rapes, robberies and murders there? Are you by any chance living in a nice comfy suburb and preaching to all us un-enlightened serfs? Perhaps you have selective indignation. A five year old may have died from Whu flu and its the end of the world, but have ten toddlers get shot by gang bangers and “no big deal”. Sounds like a case of White guilt to me and as always, Orange Man Bad.

amorr
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:25am

Wow, are you really listening to what rude stuff you're spouting. I just have to say, wow. Pretty disgusting.

middle of the mit
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:55am

Read or listen to the news in rural Northern MI.

It's more widespread because we are more spread out. But it exists up here too.

If you don't have some type guilt over how whites have accumulated their wealth and yours, you are heartless and have no sympathy and that is EXACTLY HOW WE CONQUERED THE WORLD. That and TWO WORLD WARS fought mostly between white nations. In fact, the only non-white nation that was a major player was Japan.

What's wrong?

Don't want to admit it?

Don't worry.

It was Divine intervention. Or, AKA Manifest Destiny.

Imagine how God is going to feel about that.

I don't want to.

Chris
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 9:20am

That 5 year old also had meningitis. But that's not going to go on the death certificate now is it? No, because the WHO, CDC, and all the other alphabet soup departments have told states to code every death regardless of what the root cause of death was as Covid-19. Doesn't anyone find it short of miraculous that just like that BAM!!!! Cancer, heart disease, and other causes of death have gone away? If the medical examiners/coroners were allowed to use THEIR knowledge instead of being required to use flawed models propagated by people like Bill Gates and Dr. Fauci the death count would be a lot lower and we could get on with our lives. a lot quicker. And all you people on here that are complaining about people not obeying the "stay at home" orders, can you honestly say that you yourself obeyed the law and didn't leave your house at all since March? I didn't think so.

Hilarious
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 6:39pm

Now we know what happened to all the people when they closed the insane asylums.

Anonymous
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 8:11pm

Now I know you- I was at the Capital today and I saw you down there- you were the unmasked lady screaming hysterically at the protesters and giving everyone the middle finger, weren't you? I also watched a nature show today and saw a monkey on there throwing his poo at people- maybe that was you? I know, childish insults and personal name-calling are bad, right?

Yawn
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:33pm

Anonymous, I'm sure that post sounded brilliant when you posted it. That woman represented the 99% who choose to protect our loved ones and stay home. Thank you for making me laugh thinking she threw poo at you.

Annoyed
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 7:27pm

If everyone would've just did what they was supposed to earlier in the month we probably would all be back to work already! Dont blame the government! Blame yourselves!

Math Sux
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 3:26am

Riiight...rural Michigan to blame? How about groups of people playing basketball or having block parties in Detroit?

Sorry, forgot the mantra in all of this, "Rural and small town America is still clinging to their guns and religion" so blame those uncultured hicks for everything, including Orange Man.

In case you are just noticing, the average citizen was tired of being told what to eat, what to drive, how to live, etc. Continuing the "We know better" leftist agenda by crushing an economy and the spirit of our republic (NOT a democracy, please learn the difference) over this virus is causing many citizens to examine the implications of a leftward drift of state government.

Like most of the US, Michigan is clearly divided by urban versus rural realities. Population centers, and the associated votes, control much of our life. The issue is we live "out here" because there is little appeal in cities. Life is different and we only ask fair consideration of those differences when setting policy. Perhaps the Governor should look at why people are upset, instead of addressing the concerns like we are children. Two different Michigan's, so two different approaches to getting us back to work.

Crumbs
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:43pm

Listen dolt, I own a mansion and a yacht on Torch Lake. I own you. So you can't go hunting until you finish mowing my F'in lawn.

Oh the foolish rural poor Americans who think they're valued by Republicans. It's your vote, baby. No one in the GOP cares about you. Oh sure, say that's how democrats treat African Americans, but who is fighting for them and who fights against them?

Where is your broadband service in rural Michigan? Do you think maybe some rich guy is stopping it because he doesn't want competition, loves monopoly and his golden cow? There would be a hell of a lot more high paying jobs in rural Michigan if there was inexpensive high-speed broadband across the state, but Republicans who have been in control with gerrymandering won't allow it.

Good day.

Revere
Sat, 05/02/2020 - 11:49am

Crumbs sounds like a slave owner! ("I own you").
Typical Whitmer voter.
Doesn't understand that he doesn't own his mansion on torch lake - The government does and he pays rent to them in the form of "property taxes" xD

DOUGLAS HAMNER
Mon, 05/18/2020 - 5:58pm

Listen Elitist...

You don't own anybody, in fact you can be rapidly outnumbered. You sound like an Aristocratic Tory, and we all know what happened to them. Your Mansion on Torch Lake and your cute little boat is maintained by skilled individuals who can easily turn the lights off. Your arrogant attitude will immediately disappear in the presence of a populace who is tired of your pedantic horsecrap. All your wealth means nothing, because we allowed you to have it. No national guard or police will protect you if you continue with your authoritarian ways, because those entities are run by people just like us. Keep it up...you will fall just like every other creep like you, history is clear.

Revere
Sat, 05/02/2020 - 2:05am

Lock and load, Math.
They don't know where their food comes from.
We can starve these idiots to death, we won't even have to deport them.

Michelle Woodman
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 7:39pm

The article notes that "The House legislation would allow dine-in restaurants, bars, theaters, gyms, casinos and yacht clubs to reopen by May 15 but require all businesses to enact social distancing policies and take other precautions until May 30." This appears to be a perfectly reasonable compromise, although it doesn't go anywhere far enough to opening up the economy now like I'd wish. But these laws would then come from the legislature (which is how our system is supposed to work) and they would be bipartisan (assuming the tyrant signs them).

Seems like the spineless GOP is giving in to Halfwhit, but apparently it doesn't matter, because Whitmer is who we know she is- a wanna-be-dictator intent on inflicting as much economic damage and killing as many people as she can (through delaying cancer treatments, canceling preventive medicine, and putting in place policies that are going to lead to higher suicide and drug abuse).

Jessica Livingston
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 8:16pm

You realize that by posting this you're just inviting a bunch of ad hominem attacks right? You'll be called names, people you support will be called names, people will question your motivations, or people will criticize your tone. Democrats, socialists, fascists, progressives, liberals, the media, elites, and their ilk all own the bottom of Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement and rarely rise from the muck to refute the central points or logic behind your arguments. You're an idiot for engaging these idiots.

Got it
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:56pm

Idiot

Got it
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:55pm

Spineless GOP

Anonymous
Tue, 05/05/2020 - 2:05pm

Michelle, tyrant? Halfwit?

A White House memo to congressional committees says no member of the administration’s coronavirus task force can agree to testify on Capitol Hill unless the invitation is expressly approved by the president’s chief of staff.

Looks like tyrant Trump wants no oversight.

Not a Lemming
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 8:20pm

Chatfield and Shirkey, just want a seat at the big table with the grownups. And they got caught re-faced when the Gov leaked their quid-pro-quo email to the press. This is a clear-cut case of political wrangling by Republicans that see their own seats chasing behind Trump right off a cliff. When the elections come, gonna be a whole lot of new faces sitting in those seats.
The Gov is already reviewing plans to reopen the economy by region and sector so why are the neocons still asking for that? And what other nonsense do these Republicans demand? Elective surgery? So they would throw a dying covid-19 patient out to make room for a breast implant procedure? OMG.
And these poor gullible people that get so easily riled up by the myopic neocon "handlers" flaming the fires of ignorance, pride and selfish egos. All I hear is talk about "me - me - me" and how bad it is for them when we have trucks storing the dead. Mothers crying for lost sons. Doctors taking their own lives. If they want to risk their own lives for a dollar, fine with me. Keep showing up at those Trump rallies so researchers can track the spread among yourselves. But keep it among yourselves. Don't be going out there in public and be like rats during the great plague spreading it all over the place.
Karl said he has a right to break the law and defy a state wide executive emergency order to save lives. No Karl, no you don't. He is a landscaping judge from what I read; interpreting the laws in a court in his own mind to determine which ones are "illegal". Well I hope you are better with a shovel. You could get a job today digging mass graves.
And Wendy, really?! “I want to see Whitmer and our government open everything up.” I am sure even the neocons don't want that. Not being able to sell a house for a couple of months is TEMPORARY. Dying from a virus because someone was careless is PERMANENT.
I read elsewhere that poor impoverished jewelry company is losing business from the lock down because they cannot import metal and stones. Geez? Really? My heart is torn for you. But did you think maybe people are not buying jewelry right now? Maybe food and meds are essential?

So ironic that the Democrats raised arguments about which candidate could best win against Trump when it now looks like my 3 year old would win by a landslide.

In the Middle
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:58pm

I'm not sure you understand what elective surgeries are. Google it. You'd be surprised how many important surgeries people need that aren't allowed right now. Does it really take writing a novel to tell people you don't like Trump?

Just sayin
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:04pm

Elective means not necessary. If it'd necessary, your doctor will do it. Otherwise he or she will face a malpractice lawsuit.

Laughing at you
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:43pm

Middle, no. I don't like Trump. Can you tell us why you're still standing by your man? I heard you people just want to stick it to Democrats. Deep down you hate him too. Shooting your nose to spite your face. LOL

Nobody
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 11:48am

Most people just want to get back to work, those people don't have any savings, they just want to feed their families and pay their bills. Now, if the President wants to send Michigan people another 1200 dollar check than people wouldn't be so upset, but he's not. How can people feed their families, pay rent, and their bills, if they are not back at work? It looks like landlords in Michigan are not getting any rent for another 6 weeks or more. You can thank your governor for that one.

Macomb Patriot
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 8:33pm

No shots fired, nobody threatened, sounds like a solid appreciation of our 2nd Amendment rights on display despite the tone of the article.....If only our power drunk Democrat governor had the same appreciation for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights....... Meanwhile in Chicago...........

Kishauwau
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 10:33am

Sounds like you still have food. Are you a meatpacker forced to work?

So confused
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:12pm

Is Trump power drunk? Why did he declare a national emergency? Was it because he doesn't believe in your 2nd Amendment rights? So you were only interested in threatening the governor with violence because of your 2nd Amendment rights? That was your point? I thought it was a protest to open the economy. I'm so confused. You guys need to organize better. Not everyone is reading your facebook rants. We just see idiots spreading a virus during a pandemic. It all makes sense now or does it?

Anonymous
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:00pm

Let's add a little perspective. So many times, the argument is made that if you even leave your home you are "endangering others". It's a pandemic, after all, right? Well, as a pedestrian, I am endangered every time I try to cross the street. As a cyclist, I am endangered by motorists every time I ride to work. All it takes is one distracted driver and I'm going on a trip to the hospital. We could fix this by outlawing all automobiles. Logically it's the same argument.

Nice try, but no
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:31pm

Not at all. It's more like smoking. You can do it, if you want to take the risks, but don't do it by me. Your rights stop where mine start. Smoking is like a virus that kills.

JLK
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:32pm

That's only logically the same argument if you crossing the street also endangers other people who were not crossing the street; if the cyclist endangers non-cyclists by riding in the street with cars; etc. The problem here is that you cannot be responsible for yourself alone when you're dealing with a contagious disease that can be spread by asymptomatic people. None of those other "personal responsibility" examples are equivalent. And THIS is why so many people are struggling with the fact that your individual rights aren't the issue here. It's protecting all the people that will unknowningly be endangered by you and your selfish decision to do what you want when you want.

Dan
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:12pm

Don't use my tax dollars for this purpose. Let the representatives that voted to sue pay out of their own pockets. They only work part time and get full time pay, benefits and pension. Another waste of my tax dollars.

Matt
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:26pm

Be a shame if the protesters all got the virus and took it home to the communities they live in.
Maybe they can shoot the virus. What's the point of carrying a gun if you're not going to use it? Guess it makes you look tough on social media or maybe it feels good to intimidate unarmed women. Not sure but glad I wasn't raised that way.
I'm all for guns, and I understand some guys need a gun to feel secure or look tough, but you're not going to shoot Corona, or anyone at capital so unless you're scared why bring them?

Anonymous
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 11:26am

Your comments only prove that which we know to be true about Whitmer and her supporters- that they are the enemies of life, liberty, and property rights. Cancer screenings are down and preventive medicine is down and suicide is up and drug abuse is up- those are going to kill far more than the virus- and you come on here and wish your enemies to die. You don't respect people's rights. And you don't care about the damage that the government is doing to their property.

Look, we've fought this battle many times- the American Revolution, the Civil War, World War Two, etc. You and your fascist, communist, controlling, and evil enemies will be defeated. You're the bad guy, and bad guys lose. Et cum tyrannis!

Sue
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:35pm

True, but it's also like a big pickup truck... compensation for a small ego, shall we say. LOL

Revere
Sat, 05/02/2020 - 4:22pm

Sue,
In fact, pickup trucks are for towing trailers, carrying larger loads than a car can carry, for traversing roads during inclement weather, and the like.
You ignorant, inbred city slicker. You people are worse than the moonshine hicks in the tenessee mountains.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 10:49am

And here again we see what is really happening- this is a power struggle between those who work and those who don't. Sue doesn't build anything or transport any products, she feels bad about being a useless parasite sucking taxpayer dollars for doing nothing, and so she wants to use the power of the state to punish others. She apparently suffers from ego envy, or isn't getting enough ego lately because she doesn't take care of herself, and so she immediately thinks about ego. And that laugh- clearly it wasn't a pleasant magical laugh that people enjoy hearing, but was the evil, sinister laugh that makes your skin crawl. We know you, Sue.

Junior Rocky
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:45pm

Thank God almighty for these protesters! Our founding fathers would be proud!

JLK
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:37pm

The founding fathers are not a hive mind. They all had a variety of opinions. But, given that the preamble to the Constitution noted a need to promote the general Welfare. . . and a bunch of people reveling in ignorance advocating for the right to spread a disease with reckless abandon is a display that is unlikely to have impressed most of them. But keep on telling yourself that this display of selfishness is somehow in keeping with their philosophy because it's clear your understanding of their actual thoughts and opinions is limited to memes and random quotations out of context.

Anonymous
Mon, 05/18/2020 - 6:02pm

"Promote the general welfare" does not equate mandating the general welfare. It means giving the population the tools and the information to make good decisions. It does not mean orders or mandates. Liberty is not negotiable.

Naw
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:50pm

Only Benedict Arnold.

Karen Dunnam
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 9:58pm

"Shirkey said the Legislature will take Whitmer to court ..."
Which court does the mechanical engineer plan to file suit in? Ingham county? A state district court? A federal district court? State supreme court?

Mi5cents
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 11:39am

They are likely to lose in whatever court they file in. I would assume this is mostly political posturing.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 12:39pm

Probably. The government looks after the government. Bureaucrats protect bureaucrats. The elite back up the elite. These things we know to be true.

Circus
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 10:49pm

What a show. Yet another thing to create even more division. Even if half the population was keeling over in the streets you don't force 10 million people on house arrest. If YOU want to stay home, fine. If a business owner CHOOSES to close their doors fine. Freedom, Never trade it for safety.

Anonymous
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:53pm

Even if 5 million people are dying in the street, you don't tell the other 5 million to stay home? Okay, who will go to the restaurant with all that rotting flesh smell?

Revere
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 11:02pm

We are open for business as we have been since early in this coronavirus scam when we realized what was going on. No one will stop us. We will defend ourselves and our business by any means necessary. Bring it on, you stasi pigs.

JLK
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:41pm

Nice. . .what a tough guy. I'm sure that your business has been thriving with people who also care more about getting theirs than protecting the community at large. Kudos. . . if there's one thing that our Lord and maker supported whole-heartedly it was greed before people. Y'all are making Michigan proud.

Revere
Sat, 05/02/2020 - 11:52am

JLK,
We have been quite busy and our customers are continuously expressing their appreciation for our help in keeping their livelihoods intact.
Our Lord and Savior would not have supported tyranny, and tyranny is what this shutdown is. Remember that Christianity is rooted in free will and love, not brainwashing, forcing people to think the way you tell them to, and "forced love" i.e. staying inside becuase someone said that it might keep some sick elderly people alive a few more months.
You dolt.

Malarkey
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 3:25am

Amen. Godspeed Brother

Anonymous
Thu, 04/30/2020 - 11:39pm

She says she isn't going to play political games- as she releases to the media the negotiations between two parties (that's a big way to undermine trust in a relationship) and makes partisan accusations. She says she is relying on the Science, but the science has now turned firmly against the shut downs (the shut downs are now killing more than they save). She says over and over "I'm going to make the decisions"- but making decisions on the laws of our state is for the LEGISLATURE. The job of the Governor is to EXECUTE the laws. You know, like protecting our most vulnerable populations who are dying in our state because our Governor is playing games and engaging in political theater- every second she goes on national TV but doesn't review nursing homes is another second she wasted.

She doesn't have the power over me to rule as a dictator. I am no longer following the laws she puts out. The contract is broken, and now I don't have to follow it.

Josh
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:03pm

She's EXECUTING the law as proscribed by the Emergency Powers Act, enacted by the LEGISLATURE in 1945.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(huhezl5ujy2mxvmwrxaknb41))/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-Act-302-of-1945.pdf

JLK
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:43pm

And again, your expertise shines through. It's shocking that you post is made anonymously when you should tout your credentials to prove that you 100% know what you're talking about. . . and aren't just posting a bunch of wishful thinking and unsupported assertions.

I call BS
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 3:02pm

GOP talking points: "the shut downs are now killing more than they save"

Oh dear, are those numbers somewhere on Trump's CDC website? I can't find them ANYWHERE.

amorr
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:13am

GOP has lost their minds. End of story.

God have mercy on us
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:55pm

I'm afraid you're right. Let's hope they thin their herd.

Suzanne
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:22am

Don’t you all KNOW this is NOT about stopping the spread of the Corona virus? It’s about you losing your freedom to make responsible choices. All you who agree with what Governor Whitmer is saying and DECIDING for you will MAYBE not get infected by the virus but you are already infected by her POWER. You will be sorry in the future or more importantly your children and grandchildren will suffer the consequences of her reckless abuse of POWER. I am still governed by the Constitution of the UNITED STATES, which DOES NOT CHANGE, even in a state of emergency, as it didn’t in any of our wars, Civil,WW1, WW2,Vietnam, Gulf.
Think about what you have at stake. People have lost their lives to protect most of all our precious freedoms. We have stayed home,we do respect your right to stay home, we will practice social distancing , but DONT take our freedom to choose away from us.

Mi5cents
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 11:57am

The US Supreme Court addressed this issue early in US history. “The Constitution,” Justice John Marshall Harlan wrote for a 7-2 majority, “does not import an absolute right in each person to be, at all times and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint.” Instead, “a community has the right to protect itself against an epidemic.” Its members “may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand.”

As to the wars you mentioned, didn't Lincoln suspend habeas corpus during the Civil War? Wasn't there limits on a number of activities during both World Wars? Weren't salaries and prices on many things frozen by government in WWII? What about the Federal Defense Production Act, which gives the President authority to order businesses to accept and prioritize certain contracts regardless of the loss of profit to the business? Federal Government authority? I could go on, but you get the point.

middle of the mit
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:54am

The only point I want to make is that if hippies and blacks and our Hispanic brethren tried to push our way into the Capital building with loaded AR-15's? We wouldn't have made it. WE wouldn't have made it with protest signs. Signs are ILLEGAL in the Capital building. Republicans are AFRAID OF SIGNS.

That rally would have been shut down.

Everyone knows it.

Why do these wussies get away with it?

Go volunteer for the Army.

HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

#bringbackthedraft!

And since we are all living longer, let the draft age be who ever is physically able.

If you do extreme sports in your 60's?

You are eligible.

Christopher James
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 3:06am

Ok here's the deal Governor whitmer is doing everything in her power to keep michigan safe we are in a global pandemic people have died because of covid-19 this is no joke I support her decision in what she's doing trying to keep us safe ok good job Governor.

Anonymous
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:36pm

Dude, quite parroting talking points. We're long past this trite slogan stuff. The question isn't "is she doing everything in her power"- the question is what her power is and how much of it she should rightly have. The question is not "keeping michigan safe", it's about how her policies are killing people in Michigan (inability to get cancer screenings, reduced preventive medicine, increased suicide, etc) and how her policies are not keeping Michigan safe (Michigan has one of the worst death rates in the nation and is doing an awful job of protecting nursing home populations). Grow up and wake up, Christopher James!

EB
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 7:17am

If our Michigan State legislators were legitimate, if they had been elected into office, then they would represent voters and as an equal branch of government should have a say in these decisions. But, only a few of them were elected into office; nearly all of them were gerrymandered into office and they are not our representatives.

Our governors however are elected into office and our current governor received 53.3% of the vote in 2018. She is a legitimate representative of our electorate.

Our legislators’ con game comes to an end in 2022, the first election after our new Citizens Redistricting Committee puts an end to gerrymandering.

Until this election, our first legitimate legislator election in two decades, we should give the nod to our elected representative, our governor.

Bingo!
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 3:13pm

That's why so few people were at the rally. Plus many were from outside Michigan. It's just another DeVos political side show. They don't even care that Trump, Betsy's boss, called the national emergency and told the governors to fix it. HE said listen to the governors.

Cathy
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 7:47am

The US government orders 100,000 new body bags. The pursuit of liberty does not mean a license to endanger the lives of others. The republican's led push of these attacks are obviously a flexing of their power grab with no concern for the safety of the public. Some republican led states are threatening to revoke benefits if worker's refuse to return to work and to hell with the possibility of dying. The protester's are being used and are in the minority. Their protests look like a bunch of Timothy McVeigh wannabes.

VeeMann
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 11:40am

Inalienable rights are not given to us or to be taken away by the government. Last time I checked there is not a right to a 'no risk' life. You do what you want, I'll do what I want. Please all you scared sheep, stay in your houses and sing praises to DimWhit. As for the rest of us will get what needs to be done, done.

Exactly
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 3:14pm

Makes you wonder why Trump would order 100,000 body bags.

Don
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 8:46am

well this should prove to them republican sheeps that the republicans care not a thing about you only MONEY!!!

Ignore her.
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 8:50am

This is simple folks, just ignore everything this Witless Governor has “ordered”. She does not have the authority to suspend the Constitution so just get on with life as normal. I have changed nothing in my life at all due to this “crisis” or Governor Dumb Dumbs “orders”. She has become comfortable enough to show her true tyrant colors. Ignore her, Go about your life as you normally do. There is a reason the State Police are not getting involved, they know her orders are contrary to the Constitution of the United States.

Woo Hoo
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 3:16pm

They're you fines and revoked business licenses, so yeah, it's your choice.

Jake K.
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 8:54am

Why is an Order needed? People don't exercise common sense and they need someone else to make decisions for them. If every person was responsible AND accountable to themselves AND others, our society would be much different and dictatorial politics wouldn't be acceptable or at worse, a necessity. I'm okay with reasonable restrictions and limitations but not at the leisure of pandering politics.

Todders throw t...
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:59pm

Me thinks you drive on the expressway shoulder, right?

Revere
Sat, 05/02/2020 - 11:53am

Jake,
The way you think is exactly like a chinese dictator. You should move to china. You would love it there. They probably won't incinerate you if you disagree with them... probably.

Cathy
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 8:59am

The actions of Michigan's GOP speak for themselves, talk about shining a light under the refrigerators and forcing out the cockroaches. Their concern for shoring up power verses the public's health under the guise of need to work and inciting near riots? Wow.

J.
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 9:09am

If those armed protesters in Lansing were black, there's no way they would have survived that "protest". Sad but true.

Mike
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 9:10am

Not sure why this article is biased against the facts, but obviously the author either didn't bother to read Act 390 of 1976, or failed to comprehended it. The Governor is acting like a dictator and the courts need to act now to stop her.

JLK
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:47pm

Oh, they read it. . . and noted that it's not actually the law that's being invoked here. Take a look further back in history to 1945. . .

Enlighten
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 3:19pm

I read Act 390. What is the relevant section?

Lois Lane
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 7:18pm

Mike, you need to pay attention. The court has already ruled in the Governors favor. As usual you’re too late.

Revere
Sat, 05/02/2020 - 2:07am

Don't worry, Mike, recall effort already started.
After that, we're going to try her, convict her, and hang her on the capitol steps.

Dlb
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 9:27am

How irresponsible for the Senate Majority Leader to say, “the governor has grown comfortable being a dictator”.
How inflammatory in light of the armed protestors in the Capitol Building!

Beverly Keenan
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 9:38am

The governor's actions are commendable . She and every governor out there were elected to make these hard decisions. She is doing her job.

Mike
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 9:43am

Opinion:

The Michigan radical right wing Republican legislature needs to stop scheming ways to sidetrack the Governor and do their jobs. They are doing NOTHING but fueling and insighting desperate people who are afraid. Maybe they could, oh I don't know, look into the reason their state's unemployment system is broken and get the people who desperately need some relief.

Or maybe they could work on helping the Governor work on testing and tracing the citizens of Michigan. Frankly I would like to hear from anyone that can tell me what THEY have done during this crisis other than sit on their asses bitching about the Governor... Just one thing...anyone?

It's so easy to sit in a nice cozy job in Lansing doing nothing but raising hell and not helping the situation...if these lawmakers are tired of the emergency order (which is in place to protect my life) then resign from your posts and leave...go to New York and work with Gov Cuomo if you think it's so bad here...

Mike F
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 9:47am

Opinion:

The Michigan radical right wing Republican legislature needs to stop scheming ways to sidetrack the Governor and do their jobs. They are doing NOTHING but fueling and insighting desperate people who are afraid. Maybe they could, oh I don't know, look into the reason their state's unemployment system is broken and get the people who desperately need some relief.

Or maybe they could work on helping the Governor work on testing and tracing the citizens of Michigan. Frankly I would like to hear from anyone that can tell me what THEY have done during this crisis other than sit on their asses bitching about the Governor... Just one thing...anyone?

It's so easy to sit in a nice cozy job in Lansing doing nothing but raising hell and not helping the situation...if these lawmakers are tired of the emergency order (which is in place to protect my life) then resign from your posts and leave...go to New York and work with Gov Cuomo if you think it's so bad here...

Jim
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 10:21am

Since 80% of the nations citizens believe it is too early to reopen commerce I suggest the other 20% pack their guns, fat bellies and loud mouths into their big pickup trucks and move to Georgia where freedom rings ( and infects).

George Hagenauer
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 10:49am

Something to look at carefully is how the emergency declaration provides protection against legal liability for doctors and businesses. My sense is that it does and if so removing may just convert a lockdown into a pile of lawsuits as people gt the virus and can trace it to a particular work or other situation. All those car crash law commercials may turn into got the virus commercials. And for all of you who doubt what can happen - I live i n a small city a half hour away from the Detroit border that currently has more cases and deaths than the state of Wyoming. Once I get my liberty as a person who demographically fits 80% of the deaths here I'll be staying locked down for a long time . You can open your businesses but a whole lot of us aren't going to be dropping by to spend money.

Anonymous
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 7:50pm

The Michigan Legislature passed bills that were designed to protect against legal liability for doctors and businesses. When the Governor's authority expired, signing this legislation became very important. But the Governor refused, saying that by signing it she would be agreeing that laws came from the Legislature and that her power was limited. She does not want anything limiting her power during this time- that's her priority.

Lags
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 11:10am

Notice the difference in administration's, when we the people had some input about jobs we were locked out OUR state capitol as in not allowed inside, yesterday you were allowed in with weapon's. What does that tell you? Who would you support?

Lags
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 11:13am

Notice the difference in administration's, when we the people had some input about jobs and pay structure we were locked out OUR state capitol as in not allowed inside, yesterday you were allowed in with weapon's. What does that tell you? Who would you support?

Jonah212
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 11:14am

I can understand protests though the Governor is correct on these issues of stay at home, etc. I guess the Republicans are really the party of death at the State and the National level.

Also, why do the idiots have to carry their guns. Peaceful, no, carrying the guns is just a not so subtle way of trying to intimidate people and the gun carriers know that or are the guns simply an extension of their manhood?

Doby Joe
Mon, 05/04/2020 - 10:07am

The protesters believe (probably correctly) that more people are going to be killed by the stay at home orders. Less cancer screenings, reduced preventive care, fewer vaccinations, increased drug and alcohol abuse, and a rapidly rising suicide rate will kill more than the virus. The Governor's policies will not lead to less people dying- there is no evidence of this. But the above list will happen with the Governor's policies. Thus those protesting are probably doing more to save lives in the end than the Governor.

From what I read, those who were carrying guns were doing so to protect the protesters from violent left-wing extremists who have been attacking US citizens over the last several years. Thankfully this security wasn't needed.

Jonah, I'm concerned for you- are you feeling inadequate? Not everything is always about manhood, you know. Are you still stuck in that phase of Freud's development? Perhaps you should see someone and talk to them about this envy that you have?

Eric Snow
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 11:19am

Businesses should just ignore her. I'm going to open up, go out, visit friends, and do everything else I want to do. Safely, of course. But she has no legal authority here. The Governor does not have the right to declare an emergency, seize power, deny oversight and accountability, and rule until he/she wants. Imagine if a Republican Governor declared an emergency, told people what to wear, put people under house arrest, and refused to ever give up that power or accept oversight- the media would be demanding a revolution.

Ignore her coup effort. She's got nothing.

MaryAnn Gieraltowski
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 11:35am

Does the mandate apply to the Amish workforce? They're in my neighborhood now repairing a roof.

John G -70
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:10pm

20 years of right wing misinformation by Fox News , Rush, Hannity ,GOP and the Christian coalition has resulted in a society that 35to 40% of people believe that science is a lie. Financed by multination corporations, NRA and right wing anti government individuals that buy elected officials (Thru Citizen United) they have succeeded in dividing the country to the point that we have the biggest liar that ever lived as the POTUS, and a group of selfish narcissistic misinformed trumpets in Lansing threatening the Governor for doing the RIGHT thing! Wake UP its a PANDEMIC

Raphone
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:23pm

With Memorial Day weekend only three weeks away, will private campground owners be allowed to be open? Sounds like the state parks will be closed. Easy place to social distance and not feel like a prisoner in your own home.

Anonymous
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:42pm

Notice the difference in administrations, when we the people wanted to have OUR voices heard about jobs and pay structure, we were locked out. Yesterday you were allowed inside with weapon's. Big difference, who do you support spineless or spine!!

Pops
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:48pm

I for one appreciate that we have a strong governor that has had to make difficult decisions during an unprecedented, trying time. I find it totally hypocritical that Republicans are preaching about checks & balances, when at the same time they blindly back a president that has such disregard for that very concept & the constitution in general. As far as you protestors, if your selfish disregard for the orders was only about you then that would be one thing. The reality is that your selfish acts endanger many other people, so it's not up to you. You are encroaching on other people's freedom. Democracy gives us freedom as a society to set up laws that we all follow, not an individual, "I'm going to do what I want." That's anarchy. So in this case , if you want to drink Lysol or bleach, go right ahead. That would affect only you, but stay home because that affects all of us. The majority of the state (80%), back the stay at home laws. You are the minority. So quit whining and do your part like the rest of us.

Thomas Post
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 12:57pm

In Michigan data and science is outlawed by Whitmer's Executive Order No. 2020-38, Freedom of Information Act requests may be deferred and are on a vast scale, news outlets are denied access to data. It's the Covid's you know. But she can dig through the records and find more dead people from the past to add today "Gov. I see dead people". We need to see the data by date on the death certificate not by state release of data, the UK’s NHS data is like this and the trend is clear. Whitmer lies with data, and is a science denier.

Anonymous
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:03pm

Notice the difference in administrations, when we the people wanted to have OUR voices heard about jobs and pay structure, we were locked out. Yesterday you were allowed inside with weapon's. Big difference, who do you support spineless or spine!!

Small Business owner
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:12pm

My husband and I were told to close our martial Arts and wellness studio on March 16th. That was our source of income. You can get unemployment the Governor said...oh but not for three weeks. Oh and the system keeps breaking down but just keep trying while your bills pile up up. You can get PPP loans oh but the fund is out of money and the second round the system crashed again. But wait while your bills pile up. My husband who has health issues now has to work in a big box store where he is more at risk now because people don't social distance and oh by the way keep your small studio closed but now come in contact with 1000's of people a week because they can now buy their mulch, dirt, seeds and flowers after all that's what's important for the economy not small business owners who now have close their doors forever and continue to risk our lives working at grocery and big box retailers for $11/ hour. There is no fairness only political favors for big businesses.

Regina
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 1:39pm

Governor whitmar had no problem going between her house in Lansing & her other home outside of Lansing, as she continued to not allow other Michigan residents to do the same while allowing anyone from out of state (new York, Illinois license plates) to come to second/other residents. Did governor whitmar allow her husband's(owns) golf course to get $1,000 situation for operating (last few weeks)? She had no problem laying off hundreds of state workers & expediting their unemployment benefits, unlike thousands who still can not get registered & many will now be denied because time limits expired. Michigan has 25%+ unemployment rate, as of 4/20/20--depression numbers.
Many hospitals in Michigan have closed due to little/no patients, some even 20 minutes south of Detroit. Thousands of hospitals employees have been laid off & told to be expected unemployed for 4 months adleast. Detroit & flint are hot spots, recieve most tests & $$, yet continues to defy stay at home orders/social distancing (bridge/wilx) for most of stay at home order (finishing 7th week). State police clocked 2016 dodge charger doing 180 mph (in 70 mph) on I75 by Detroit going south towards Ohio at 11:45pm wed 4/29/20. Police wrote ticket & was told to release with warning about safety concerns. They should have been home (not out on highway) & would have been arrested any other time.
There are 9 or 10 counties with no coronavirus cases, many zip codes within counties that have no coronavirus cases. Contain & enforce detroit/flint areas & allow rest of state to reopen in stages. Governor whitmar woukd have closed our state border & not allowed out of state people to continue to come into Michigan (from other hot states) if she really wanted to control the spread of coronavirus in our state. As a person in the high risk group (group of highest number of deaths in Michigan) I understand her initial concern but now she has gone too far for too long.
FYI--law enforcement always wear bullet proof vests while on duty, this is nothing new. As far as others representatives wearing bullet proof vests,maybe they were showing support to protesters. There would be no other reason to wear vests, as there have been no threats to representatives or any violence towards them.

Laura Bell
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 2:56pm

I thought she was using data to drive the decisions but where is her data coming from? She is quoted as saying on Thursday April 30th - “That is a fact. For anyone to declare, ‘Mission accomplished,’ means that they're turning a blind eye to the fact that over 600 people have died in the last 72 hours.” But the numbers provided by the state only show 382 deaths over the last 3 days (72 hours) and 80 of those deaths were earlier and added due to the 3 times weekly review that is done. So why is she inflating the numbers so much and not following the data that the state is releasing? It appears she is using fear instead of the data.

Cathy
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 3:01pm

Michigan Governor Arrogantly Forcing Residents to Remain Alive
In a blistering takedown, Attorney General William Barr said the governor was “depriving Michiganders of their constitutionally enshrined right to die before their time.”
(Andy Borowitz)
Hey protester's, just listen to the Mi. GOP, they'll allow you to die.

Cathy
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 5:42pm

For most Republicans, the intention is never to turn the Party over to the unabashed racists and Nazis, but rather to court them and use them. Trump has flipped this script on its head. The people in the White House who are closest to Trump,the ones manipulating him, are people like Stephen Miller, who is working for genocide to become a reality. Of course, the sacrifice these Republican leaders always speak of is from the weak and the poor. It is never their families who are asked to give up their money, their resources, or their lives.

DJ
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 7:02pm

This governor doesn't realize how bad she is hurting many businesses, and many of them will close. How will that help the deficit budget in Michigan. Will she ask for higher taxes to cover the loss of funds. And what, she is giving scholarships away! Certainly, the Essential Workers need many kudos for the amazing job they have done! Something should be done, but more of a money giveaway. This couldn't be for votes. naw! The information out there is saying that China, that's right China, wants to buy American businesses that are struggling, even those the produce crucial products. Is the governor aware of this? In Georgia they are wearing masks, separating tables, and setting up plexiglass to allow citizens to patronize their favorite restaurants. Is this too complicated for the administration to figure out? One government official said on the radio today that she is doing this, "to help the economy". Unfortunately, our government officials never attended or skipped their class in logic.

DJ
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 7:13pm

This governor doesn't realize how bad she is hurting many businesses, and many of them will close. How will that help the deficit budget in Michigan. Will she ask for higher taxes to cover the loss of funds. And what, she is giving scholarships away! Certainly, the Essential Workers need many kudos for the amazing job they have done! Something should be done, but more of a money giveaway. This couldn't be for votes. naw! The information out there is saying that China, that's right China, wants to buy American businesses that are struggling, even those the produce crucial products. Is the governor aware of this? In Georgia they are wearing masks, separating tables, and setting up plexiglass to allow citizens to patronize their favorite restaurants. Is this too complicated for the administration to figure out? One government official said on the radio today that she is doing this, "to help the economy". Unfortunately, our government officials never attended or skipped their class in logic.

DJ
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 7:13pm

This governor doesn't realize how bad she is hurting many businesses, and many of them will close. How will that help the deficit budget in Michigan. Will she ask for higher taxes to cover the loss of funds. And what, she is giving scholarships away! Certainly, the Essential Workers need many kudos for the amazing job they have done! Something should be done, but more of a money giveaway. This couldn't be for votes. naw! The information out there is saying that China, that's right China, wants to buy American businesses that are struggling, even those the produce crucial products. Is the governor aware of this? In Georgia they are wearing masks, separating tables, and setting up plexiglass to allow citizens to patronize their favorite restaurants. Is this too complicated for the administration to figure out? One government official said on the radio today that she is doing this, "to help the economy". Unfortunately, our government officials never attended or skipped their class in logic.

DJ
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 7:13pm

This governor doesn't realize how bad she is hurting many businesses, and many of them will close. How will that help the deficit budget in Michigan. Will she ask for higher taxes to cover the loss of funds. And what, she is giving scholarships away! Certainly, the Essential Workers need many kudos for the amazing job they have done! Something should be done, but more of a money giveaway. This couldn't be for votes. naw! The information out there is saying that China, that's right China, wants to buy American businesses that are struggling, even those the produce crucial products. Is the governor aware of this? In Georgia they are wearing masks, separating tables, and setting up plexiglass to allow citizens to patronize their favorite restaurants. Is this too complicated for the administration to figure out? One government official said on the radio today that she is doing this, "to help the economy". Unfortunately, our government officials never attended or skipped their class in logic.

Mike
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 8:19pm

The Michigan radical right wing Republican legislature needs to stop scheming ways to sidetrack the Governor and do their jobs. They are doing NOTHING but fueling and insighting desperate people who are afraid. Maybe they could, oh I don't know, look into the reason their state's unemployment system is broken and get the people who desperately need some relief.

Or maybe they could work on helping the Governor work on testing and tracing the citizens of Michigan. Frankly I would like to hear from anyone that can tell me what THEY have done during this crisis other than sit on their hands complaining about the Governor... Just one thing...anyone?
Walking around with AR's waving confederate flags and calling the Governor a Nazi really shows just how ignorant the so called protest is. They are so unorganized and misdirected I'm not sure they know what they are protesting...

It's so easy to sit in a nice cozy job in Lansing doing nothing and not helping the situation...if these lawmakers are tired of the emergency order (which is in place to protect my life) then resign from your posts and leave...go to New York and work with Gov Cuomo if you think it's so bad here...

TJH
Fri, 05/01/2020 - 10:29pm

If the majority in the legislature wants the stay home orders to be lifted any time soon, they would be wise to speak out against the refusal of the protesters to practice social distancing and encourage everyone to obey the order to wear masks in enclosed public spaces. In my few trips to the grocery store last week I witnessed fewer than half of the people wearing masks. When everyone wears a mask, we are all less likely to get infected and more likely to get back to some sort of normal life.

Robert Hosking
Sat, 05/02/2020 - 2:31pm

I like that she said she plans to make decisions based on data-driven information and advice from experts and not pander to the political drama. She said she will continue to do her job and views the problem as a public health crisis not a political one. I like level-headed people.

She said she believes she has the authority needed to respond to the crisis and does not need a legislatively-approved extension except to ensure that health care workers continue to have special legal protections. She said the state of emergency will continue regardless.

I like that she doesn't fall into the left/right bullshit traps of the shallow minded political pundits who seek to continually divide the country.

Revere
Sat, 05/02/2020 - 4:13pm

The most hilarious thing here is that the same people who support this tyrannical shutdown, restriction of freedom of movement, total control over everything, are the same people who support the "no human is illegal" unlimited immigration and "rights", i.e. total freedom of movement irregardless of law, of parasitical welfare-seeking "immigrants".
Their double standards have double standards which have double standards which are based on double standards! You people belong in an assilem!

John G 70
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 2:33pm

Paul, dismount your horse has a plugged rectum and the road apples are coming out around your mask!! Your racist rants about immigrants are so far off base that I'm concerned that the are too many road apples for you to spit out and the rest are stuck in your cranium

Karen S.
Sun, 05/03/2020 - 2:13pm

I just want to know why I can't get my poor dog a haircut? It's been almost 80 a few times already and she has long curly hair and is sooo hot! Tell me how one person working to groom a dog is a health risk?

A. Bellows
Mon, 05/04/2020 - 6:52am

More evidence that dems crave power and love to wield it against the unwashed masses.