Can you buy seeds in Michigan? Confusion reigns over Whitmer stay-home order.

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer on Monday said “it’s OK to be frustrated” by her executive orders and “if it makes you feel better to direct it at me, that’s OK too, I’ve got thick skin.” (Courtesy photo)

June 1: Whitmer lifts stay-at-home order, will allow bars and restaurants to open statewide​

It’s hard for Damon Glei, owner of Glei’s Orchards and Greenhouses in Hillsdale, to determine where his 103-year-old business fits into Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s extended stay-at-home order

He farms and sells food products, but also grows and sells plants. Does that make him one of the industries identified by the state and federal government as essential and allowed to stay open?

Or is he a retailer barred from selling gardening supplies under Whitmer’s expanded order Thursday?

“We asked the governor’s office, and they wouldn’t give us any direction. We can’t get any direction from the Michigan Department of Agriculture,” Glei said. 

The Michigan Farm Bureau  advised him not to sell plants, but after consulting with lawyers, he’s decided to stay open, limiting the number of customers in the store and offering curbside pickup.

“It’s been a very stressful weekend for me,” he said. 

Glei is among many Michigan retailers and customers who said they are confused about how to comply with the order and frustrated with a lack of guidance from the state over the weekend. 

The governor’s office has released an extensive FAQ addressing some questions raised by the order, which lasts until month’s end. 

For instance, residents can:

  • Go kayaking, boating, sailing or canoeing, but not in a motorized pontoon boat or anything that would require a trip to a gas station.
  • Mow their own lawn, but not hire someone else to do it.
  • Travel to care for an elderly relative, but not to visit friends or go to second homes.
  • Go for a walk in a park, but not go golfing.
  • Attend church and, despite confusion on social media, buy a car seat for a child.

“I recognize that there are a lot of passionate gardeners in Michigan, and I’ve heard from a lot of you,” Whitmer said during a news conference Monday, noting that peak retail season is still a few weeks away. 

“Right now, my immediate concern is trying to keep everyone in Michigan safe.”

Whitmer said she understands the frustration over social distancing rules.

“It’s OK to be frustrated, it’s OK to be angry, and if it makes you feel better to direct it at me, that’s OK too, I’ve got thick skin,” Whitmer said.

‘Confusion all over the place’

But for some retailers, the rules are still muddy. 

“There’s just confusion all over the place,” said Meegan Holland, spokesperson for the Michigan Retailers Association. 

The executive order says all stores more than 50,000 square feet must close sections selling carpeting, flooring, furniture, plants and gardening supplies, and paint, to encourage social distancing and prevent shoppers from crowding aisles. 

The order says stores of less than 50,000 square feet should limit the number of people to 25 percent of occupancy, but doesn’t explicitly mention gardening supplies.

But Holland said the state Department of Agriculture told her group that garden supplies shouldn’t be sold anywhere, even in small stores. 

She said her group’s leaders originally thought smaller hardware stores — which are deemed essential — would be allowed to sell paint and other supplies banned from bigger stores. But guidance in the executive order FAQ states critical businesses can’t conduct non-essential business, which Holland said the group has taken to mean small stores can’t sell paint supplies either. 

“We understand why any emergency like this is bound to cause confusion. This is a first-ever experience for all of us,” Holland said, adding that, without clarity from the governor’s office, local law enforcement has to interpret the rules.

The Michigan Department of Agriculture directed Bridge to the governor’s office when asked for clarification of rules for retailers. 

In an email to Bridge, Whitmer spokeswoman Tiffany Brown wrote: “While the order places certain limits on how goods are sold at stores 50,000 square feet or more, it does not ban Michiganders from buying any item.”

She did not elaborate or immediately respond to a follow-up email from Bridge seeking clarity.

Glei and Holland both argued there are ways to sell these supplies safely through contactless curbside delivery and said they feared the measures were pushing business to online, out-of-state stores such as Amazon.

Attack on Betsy DeVos

Their sentiments were echoed by others on social media over the weekend, some of whom shared false claims that flags, car seats, bug spray and other items were also banned under the order. 

Republican leaders in the state House and Senate have urged their constituents to call the governor with their concerns, arguing the restrictions place an undue burden on the economy, particularly in outstate areas with few confirmed coronavirus cases. 

“OUR Governor IS DESTROYING OUR HEALTH BY KILLING OUR LIVELIHOODS!,” Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey wrote on Facebook Friday

Speaker of the House Lee Chatfield also criticized the new order on Twitter: “We can ensure safety and be reasonable. Let’s do both.”

The Michigan Conservative Coalition, an activist group, plans to protest Wednesday by driving their cars around the Capitol building and making noise to express frustrations with an order they say is from “power-hungry bureaucrats.” 

On Monday, Whitmer claimed the rally was being organized with help from a group funded by the DeVos family, which includes the U.S. Secretary for Education Betsy DeVos. The DeVos family denies the accusation.

“I think it’s really inappropriate for a sitting member of the U.S. president’s cabinet to be waging political attacks on any governor,” Whitmer said.

She questioned whether some of the “inaccurate information” online about the order is based on “political posturing.” Whitmer said her orders are intended to protect the public and prevent the virus from overwhelming rural areas whose hospital systems aren’t prepared for a rash of cases.

“They can’t afford for anyone to play fast and loose with the rules, and they can’t afford for us to make exceptions for certain parts of the state, because of course COVID-19 doesn’t observe county lines,” Whitmer said.

Until the latest order, Republican leaders had largely supported Whitmer’s policies during the pandemic. 

Some Democrats said they think the fury over restrictions may have been fanned by speculation that Whitmer could be a favorite to run for vice president alongside Joe Biden.

“The questions [from constituents] are legitimate,” said Senate Democratic Leader Jim Ananich of Flint. But “you can’t miss the point that as soon as the governor started being mentioned by others as a potential vice presidential nominee, partisanship started coming into the equation.”

He said top Democrats are still having “productive conversations” with Republican leaders “but that doesn’t mean partisanship [is] not happening too.”

A spokesperson for Shirkey declined to comment and a spokesperson for Chatfield did not respond to a message seeking comment Monday.

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Mon, 04/13/2020 - 9:21pm

A place in Lansing has all the garden seeds you could want along with garden supplies etc., it is next to the grocery section.

Sunny
Fri, 04/17/2020 - 11:24am

It's snowing and there are snow advisories in Detroit. Who's planting seeds, cutting grass, or landscaping? You don't do that stuff in Michigan, until mid May, after Mother's Day. Anyone trying to sell you that stuff must be looking to make a quick buck. Even with that said, just stay put. Lawn beautification is the least of our worries and if the delay is going to make or break you, you didn't plan well. If we didn't have a pandemic, we'll still need to prepare for erratic weather anomalies. This is Michigan and climate change, like COVID-19, is real. You can't talk your way out of science or as they used to say, "You can't fool Mother Nature!"

Vegetable Grower
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 12:29pm

Anyone who wants to grow certain vegetables from seed, such as tomatoes or peppers, has to start them 6-8 weeks earlier inside. You can’t direct seed those in the garden with short growing seasons. Buying seeds in late May is too late. And that’s assuming anything will be open then anyway.

Jim Pearson
Mon, 04/13/2020 - 10:05pm

I hope that Damon Glei guesses correctly- if he doesn't, it's a $1000 fine. These thugs don't kid around with this stuff- if you might have broken the law, they'll close the distance and breath all over you and your family in order to arrest you and fine you that money. I heard that Whitmer wipes her butt with the Michigan Bill of Rights, so you know she isn't playing around. As she has said frequently, she is going to make you do what she wants until there isn't a single person in Michigan who may have the virus.

middle of the mit
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 12:38am

Did she turn her back and stick her head in the sand when her appointed EMF poisoned Flint? And then cover it up for over 2 years to only have it broken on the Rachel Maddow show, and then every downstate news organization give themselves awards for the coverage they gave Flint AFTER RACHEL MADDOW COVERED THEIR STORY that they couldn't cover for two years?

Fox
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 7:41am

Your ability to reason is totally compromised. You literally referenced CNN in your post. You realize CNN/FoxNews/etc are modern day tabloids, right? You might as well have said that the national enquirer found Elvis. Learn to reason. Stop believing what people on the internet and TV tell you to believe. Think for yourself. FYI, though those in charge of water treatment in Flint did royally screw up, not a single person actually died nor had notable health issues that can be attributed to lead, and the social and economic problems that the people face in that city will treat them far worse than the lead in the water ever could. Learn to reason.

Almighty Dollar
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 9:08am

In January 2015, testing by the University of Michigan-Flint revealed elevated lead levels in their water. Two outbreaks of Legionnaires' disease in 2014–2015, in which 12 people died and 79 people be-came ill, coincided with the water source switch. Jan 1, 2019

The Flint Water Crisis: A Coordinated Public Health ... - NCBI

It's known as a silent pediatric epidemic," she says. "It's something that we see years if not decades after exposure to lead."

Hanna-Attisha explains that lead exposure lowers IQ levels, creating cognitive and behavioral issues for children in the future. Lead exposure is difficult to treat because it is an irreversible neurotoxin, Hanna-Attisha says.

"There is no cure. There is no antidote," she says. "However, there is so much that we can do and that we are doing to minimize, to mitigate, to buffer the impact of the exposure. We cannot take it away, but we can do so much to lessen it."

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/31/561155244/flint-residents-confront-long-t...

Got it?

Fox
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 3:19pm

Great job spouting something you read on the internet.

Also great job trying to correlate legionnaires disease with lead (LOL)

Meanwhile, our parents, grandparents and great grandparents were exposed to much, much higher amounts of lead throughout their lives, and not only have/did they lead long, normal lives, but they also built everything that we are destroying today!

Got it? You wack job liberal. Go gobble some more CNN. Get ready, we're going to deport you all to communist china. You'll love it there, you'll never have to try to think again - All is dictated!

Spouting
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 6:15pm

Fox,
Amash should pass on a run for the presidency and try to keep his U.S. House seat, said Jeff Timmer, a longtime Republican consultant in Michigan who has broken with the party and opposes Trump.

Running for president as a Libertarian would be a "fool's errand," he said.

"Any vote that doesn’t go to Joe Biden is a vote for Donald Trump," said Timmer, who plans to vote for Biden.

“If he truly respects the constitutional authority that governs this country, Donald Trump has to lose this election," Timmer said of Amash. "Joe Biden is the only option.”
-- Detroit News

Hee Hee

Brian
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 9:07pm

You are wrong. 12 people from Flint did not die from legionnaires. But how could NPR, Frontline, the Flint Journal, the Detroit Free Press, push that Snyder is a horrible rich uncaring Republican narrative if they actually checked their stories? From MDHHS reports: There were 12 "outbreak associated deaths" in the county during the timeframe. The purpose of an "outbreak associated death" is intentionally broad to catch any death that might be legionella related so they can be further investigated. On a later report on pneumonia, DHHS reported two legionnaires deaths in July of 2015 and one in March of 2016 for ALL of Genesee County (I can't tell who was on Flint water or not).

Of the 90 legionnaire cases over the two years in question, 29 of them lived on Flint Water (less than 1 out of 3). Of those 29, 18 of them are known to have spent part of their incubation period at McLaren (9 did not, two were undetermined).

Of the 90 total, 51 spent part of their incubation period at McLaren.

From November, 2014 on, when the local health department and McLaren were both very aware of the legionella outbreak and the epidemiologists had a chance to work with more recent cases, it becomes much more clear that the "outbreak" was not caused by the Flint Water. There were 56 cases of legionella, 33 spent part of their incubation period at McLaren, 17 had no connection to city water (lived in Genesee County). Three (read that again), there were three people whol lived on Flint water who acquired legionella AND had not been to McLaren Hospital.

Wondering
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 2:38pm

You seem to know a lot of "facts" and don't think we should trust the news. So why don't you put your real full name? I'm sure you could be a correspondent for FUX News. Why are you afraid of reporting the truth? Are you Rick Snyder?

Sakagawega
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 11:48pm

I'm sure that he isn't putting his real name out there because he's afraid of thugs like you. Most people engage in civil discourse, but you seem to only engage in character assassination and ad hominem attacks. I've met people like you before- you're the same sort that sent death threats to people like me for disagreeing with you, or called my boss and demanded that I be fired for expressing an opinion you didn't like, or destroyed my mailbox for having a yard sign on my property you didn't agree with. You're a thug, and deserve no such respect from anyone.

Not Rick Snyder
Thu, 04/16/2020 - 2:08pm

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Kimberly
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 11:04am

Fox News is not even registered as a news organization, they are registered as an entertainment organization. This is how and why they get away with all the outright lying and crap that they produce. They are definitely up there with the tabloids.
Could you please state your source of information regarding your FYI information, as I have read otherwise (and yes, I DO fully research things I want to know, which is why I am asking for your source because I have not found one to this effect.) Thank you.
Critical thinking skills require work...most of these people that are name calling and spreading false information simply can not be bothered to think...they KNOW how to reason, they just don't want to do the work to gather the factual information needed to reason on the side of truth (facts).

Fox
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 3:21pm

Kimberly,

I'm sorry that you saw the word "Fox" and assumed "Fox News". It's actually homage to Fox Mulder, who always questions the truth.

I'm also sorry that you were unable to find any facts on your fake news sources, and that you weren't able to locate factual data that is easily accessible.

Say 'hi' to Rachel Maddow when you say your daily prayer to her.

Duh
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 3:49pm

"You realize CNN/FoxNews/etc are modern day tabloids, right?"
"I'm sorry that you saw the word "Fox" and assumed "Fox News". " Um, you literally said "Fox News". So just admit it, you dote.

Fox
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 4:59pm

What are you trying to insinuate? That I am bashing FOX News and also calling myself Fox in homage to FOX News?
Are you an insane person?
Watch X-Files. Very relevant for what is happening today in many ways. As Fox says, the truth is out there - And I'll tell you - It's not on the news!

Rachel N
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 12:17am

Fox is a play on Fox Mulder, X-Files TV show, best show ever! Fox's favorite phrase is "The truth is out there". I think you are totally missing the point, he was bashing fox news and cnn alike, and I totally agree with him. It's all tabloid garbage in the media now.

Sorry
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 2:41pm

Then with all due respect, you're both nuts. There is nothing wrong with CNN. It's journalism. FUX News on the other hand is just dark comedy.

Reason to Learn
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 3:28pm

"Stop believing what people on the internet and TV tell you to believe." Foxy, have you seen the WH press conferences?? LOL 25th Amendment calling for mental disorder.

Now POTUS is showing propaganda tapes and deleted the whole month of February, when he was still denying COVID 19 was dangerous, as though it never existed, lied about testing. You might be suffering the same condition.

"FYI, though those in charge of water treatment in Flint (GOP Snyder's EM) did royally screw up, not a single person actually died nor had notable health issues that can be attributed to lead" If poisoning a population weren't enough, people did in fact die as a result of the Flint water crisis, that caused Legionnaire's Disease.

So zip it.

Learned Reason
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 7:23pm

Reason to Learn, thank you for playing. You have implied, and perhaps believe, that Trump did nothing in February to combat the spread of the corona virus. You apparently are still spreading the hoax that President Trump said some liberals were spreading, which is the hoax that he did nothing. Here is what Trump did in February:
February 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U.S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government.
February 2: The CDC expanded enhanced entry screening to eight major airports across the nation.
February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus.
February 5: The Trump Administration and health officials briefed lawmakers on the Federal Government's coronavirus response efforts.
February 6: The CDC began shipping CDC-Developed test kits for the 2019 Novel Coronavirus to U.S. and international labs.
February 7: President Trump told reporters that the CDC is working with China on the coronavirus.
February 9: The White House Coronavirus Task Force briefed governors from across the nation at the National Governors’ Association Meeting in Washington.
February 11: The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) expanded a partnership with Janssen Research & Development to “expedite the development” of a coronavirus vaccine.
February 12: The U.S. shipped test kits for the 2019 novel coronavirus to approximately 30 countries who lacked the necessary reagents and other materials.
February 12: The CDC was prepared to travel to China but had yet to receive permission from the Chinese government.
February 14: The CDC began working with five labs to conduct “community-based influenza surveillance” to study and detect the spread of coronavirus.
February 18: HHS announced it would engage with Sanofi Pasteur in an effort to quickly develop a coronavirus vaccine and to develop treatment for coronavirus infections.
February 22: A WHO team of international experts arrives in Wuhan, China.
February 24: The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus.
Febraury 25: HHS Secretary Azar testified before the Senate HELP committee on the Administration's coronavirus response efforts.
February 26: President Trump discussed coronavirus containment efforts with Indian PM Modi and updated the press on his Administration’s containment efforts in the U.S. during his state visit to India.
February 29: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allowed certified labs to develop and begin testing coronavirus testing kits while reviewing pending applications.
February 29: The Trump Administration: Announced a level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy and South Korea.
Barred all travel to Iran. Barred the entry of foreign citizens who visited Iran in the last 14 days.

This seems like he did something. I think to suggest otherwise is lunacy.

To Stooge
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 2:45pm

No, thank YOU for playing. All too little too late.

Learned Reason
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 6:09pm

So your argument is that on January 24 Trump praised China based on what China said they were doing while we had zero cases and you think that we should have shut down the economy. And then when he later on learned more about the virus and China's response (because it turns out they were lying) and was critical of China and did something, you think that was wrong. Do I understand your argument correctly? You wanted to shut down the economy in January (when we had zero cases) and are mad that Trump didn't? You opposed China then (when it appeared they were doing well fighting the virus), but now you support China (when it appears they lied)? You are upset that Trump changed his opinions as he acquired more information because you wanted him to be more consistent? And you accused me of leaving out important dates when I clearly copied and pasted from a website? Do I understand your arguments correctly?

Dude, you're either trolling or you're from Bizarro World.

Brian
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 12:39pm

See my post above...either you work for McLaren Hospital or have no reason to learn.

middle of the mit
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 8:38pm

Fox,
You can squash it down any way you want to. The facts are that Rachel Maddow is the place that was reported. The "acutal news stations in Flint" didn't cover it until AFTER she did.

Yes, I fully well understand that the cable news networks are fluff, but there are tidbits that are worth biting on. What happened to the actual news stations? The State was telling them it was fake and they apparently wouldn't listen to Dr Attisha. Seem familiar?

As for the folks who were running the water treatment facility, how did they screw up? They did what they were told do with the equipment and supplies they were given by the EMF. It wasn't what they didn't do, it WAS what chemical the EMF decided to save money on. And that one little chemical is what lined the lead pipes and stopped the lead from leaching into the water.

Do you really think that was an oversight?

Top of the Head
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 10:08am

To answer your questions, I don't think she did those things, and it's crazy to suggest otherwise. I don't think anyone did those things, and it's crazy to suggest otherwise. Rachel Maddow was that the loon who had a show who was massively wrong on like every major issue- I wouldn't be citing her for anything if I wanted to be taken seriously. Of course, you could always just shout your crazy quotes from crazy people by writing it in all capital letters... that might work.

Enough
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 2:51pm

Maybe you'd be citing COVID19 denier Rush Limpballs instead.

Top of the Head
Sat, 04/18/2020 - 5:20pm

I don't know who you are referring to. There is a guy out there named Rush Limbaugh, but there is no evidence that he is a "COVID-19 denier", so you can't mean him- again, there is ZERO evidence that he denies the existence of the Kung Flu. Did you see a misquote on the Chinese News Network that suggested this fact and then believe it? You realize that there are thousands and thousands of quotes from him that suggest he believes in the existence of the virus, and if you listened to his show for any segment over the past two months you'd hear evidence of him believing in the General Tso's Revenge?

Cathy
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 12:28pm

When you have an idea in your mind, you tend to look for evidence that supports that idea and not pay attention to evidence that says the idea isn’t accurate. This is called confirmation bias.
The Governor has chosen to protect life and those that choose the opportunity to attack it are biased.

Fox
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 3:24pm

Cathy,

Where did you copy and paste that from? Does it make you feel good to say what you were told to say? Try reasoning for once.

Naw
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 4:27pm

Cathy WAS reasoning. You should try it, Fox.

duane
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:29pm

Cathy,
I think that is a part of listening bias, we hear what we are listening for to the point where people and distort in their minds what others have said. It is much like the three years of the Pelosi/Schumer/Democrat's claim their was a Trump - Russia collusion and people can't accept that wasn't true. Or that because Trump is a businessman rather than a politician everything he does is for money, so people claim his confidence in the medical treatment hydroxychloroquine was just to promote sales so his wallet would grow.
Even Governor Whitmer proved you right by claiming Sec of Ed DeVos was funding a campaign against when none of it was true.

Geez Louise
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 3:18pm

Jim, you're such a drama queen.

Fox
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 5:02pm

Get ready, you wack job liberal. We're going to deport you to communist china. You'll love it there. They tell you exactly what to think and when to think it, and they do you the favor of "re-educating" you in a concentration camp if you disagree! You can't get better than that for your mentality!
Be ready.

Touche
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 2:56pm

Who are you, the Deep State? Psst, China is authoritarian capitalist. US is just socialist. Did you get your check yet? Maybe you can buy a new walker or some prunes.

Richard Newton
Mon, 04/13/2020 - 11:20pm

>> “I think it’s really inappropriate for a sitting member of the U.S. president’s cabinet to be waging political attacks on any governor,” Whitmer said

The Governor doesn't believe free speech, political discourse and debate aren't healthy? Instead tries to shut down debate by claiming it is a political "attack". How about some rational thought and science behind your executive orders and explain the reasons rather than attacking those who question? What's next, will she declare the press as non-essential and shut them down too?

Sigh
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 4:32pm

You're a lost case. Such blather!

duane
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:17pm

Richard,
She surely does believe in the 1st Amendment, she exercised it by telling that lie about the Sec of Education. What is even more entertaining is the next day she was thanking Amway [the DeVos family] for the help and donations during this crisis.
As much as I had hoped Governor Whitmer would succeed in leading our state and managing our government she has proven the rule, career politicians just don't gain the experience necessary to be leaders anything as large as State government.
In all this I have been pleasantly surprised by President Trump and his ability to mobilize the federal government, utilize the experts in medicine, logistics, etc., to coral and keep the governors focused [using what they need and not demanding what they want {filling inventories they never had}], to look part the immediate and begin work on what is next, to become the focal point of media attacks to allow the professionals to stay focused on their work. As much as I tire of his personal style, he has shown himself as a Presidential leader, but he is not a career politician.

Mike
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 1:46am

Ananich should be able to recognize a political assassination when he sees one! The moment Snyder was mentioned as a presidential candidate, his partisianship was part of the Democratic chorus that took political advantage of Flint citizens to go after Snyder for their own gain. If you want to say these aren't comparable, you are right, they are not. Whitmer had much more knowledge about the potential harm of the public health risk, the risk was great (heavy toll), and harm was a certainty.

Halleluia
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 4:34pm

Snyder was awful. Thank God, we're going to stop gerrymandering. Halleluia

Good Times
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 5:19pm

Mike, why is Justin running against Trump, instead of criticizing Whitmer? LOL

Michigan's independent U.S. Rep. Justin Amash of West Michigan indicated he’s considering this week whether to run for president.
Amash criticized President Donald Trump Monday for remarks he made during a press briefing indicating the president has “the ultimate authority.” “Americans who believe in limited government deserve another option,” Amash wrote Monday on Twitter.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/04/14/amash-i...

Carole
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 8:47am

Say whatever you want Whitmer, but you were video taped giving your draconian instructions. Did someone fake the video tape? Or did you just not think before you spoke? Possibly trying to make yourself a relevant V.P. candidate?

Whitmer VP
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 4:38pm

I understand your frustration. I too would miss her if she serves as VP to Biden, but I feel our state's loss would be our country's gain.

R Ivancevich
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 8:49am

If I don’t comply with her executive orders, what law have I violated?

Google
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 4:36pm

The Emergency Management Act, 1976 PA 390, as amended, MCL 30.403(4), provides that “[t]he governor shall, by executive order or proclamation, declare a state of emergency if he or she finds that an emergency has occurred or that the threat of an emergency exists.”

Arjay
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 8:51am

I noticed that Whitmer closed all the gun stores in Michigan. Isn’t this the first step in a tyrannical takeover? Whitmer is just too crazy and tyranical to lead anything. Start the impeachment paperwork now.

Laughing at you
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 4:42pm

Why not just impeach her? Doesn't the GOP control both Michigan houses? After all, she's doing everything illegally. LOL

Kevin Grand
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 7:12am

I'll tell you what, chuckles, that counter just went past 241k as of 7am.

1k/hour supporting that recall doesn't look too good right now for Gov. Karen.

And this isn't even the end of the month yet.

And don't think that Gov. Karen is out of the woods in the courts.

She already got smacked down a few days ago when she attempted to trample on our First Amendment Rights (strangely, no mention here in The Bridge...I can only guess The Bridge staff doesn't care too much about that right) and there is a second case filed just yesterday.

https://www.americanfreedomlawcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Stip...

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2020/04/14/l...

Gov. Karen's nightmare might be ending sooner than later.

Ha Ha
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:00pm

Karen Grand, ten million people in the state. Thanks for playing.

Kevin Grand
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 8:41pm

It'll take much less than that to broom Gov. Karen out of office.

With the number of people driving through Lansing today, I could have easily filled several pads of recall petitions, if I had them, right there alone.

Arjay
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 8:51am

I noticed that Whitmer closed all the gun stores in Michigan. Isn’t this the first step in a tyrannical takeover? Whitmer is just too crazy and tyranical to lead anything. Start the impeachment paperwork now.

Fox
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 3:29pm

They are pretending to be closed but a lot of them aren't if you know them. You just call the owner or whomever is running it that day and he'll meet you there and sell you a gun. Just did it yesterday.

To Wuss
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 4:40pm

Fox, really? Which store? What's the brave patriot's name? What's your name?

Good Q
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:08pm

What happened to Fox?

PU!
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 4:44pm

Why do you need a gun to shoot COVID-19? Wouldn't you rather have toilet paper or are you one of those?

Almighty Dollar
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 9:02am

Mike Shirkey needs to resign. The majority of the entire planet is closed, and Michigan is 3rd in deaths in the entire US ( including states 4 times as populous), while we are near the top in worst roads, brain drain, gerrymandered districts, and entire cities with poisoned water.

It's long past time for this crowd of whiners to step aside and let adults who believe in science run the state. The US already has a Mississippi. Perhaps they could move there.

FAB
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 1:44pm

Typical tyrannical response. If anyone disagrees with them the “solution” is for them to leave the State.

Bingo!
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 3:44pm

Trump says he has total power to open and shut states. So I guess, you are right. Trump is a TYRANT.

Lordie, the comments here show a lot of Trump Derangement Syndrome, blind love for Trump.

middle of the mit
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 8:09pm

Almighty dollar says you may be more comfortable in a State that is run by Republicans and maybe you should move there and what do you get from it? Tyranny!

This coming from the party who tells us regularly "America: by conservatives! Love it or leave it!" or "Go back where you came from!"

I leave you with this;

Fox
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 3:19pm

Great job spouting something you read on the internet.

Also great job trying to correlate legionnaires disease with lead (LOL)

Meanwhile, our parents, grandparents and great grandparents were exposed to much, much higher amounts of lead throughout their lives, and not only have/did they lead long, normal lives, but they also built everything that we are destroying today!

Got it? You wack job liberal. Go gobble some more CNN. Get ready, we're going to deport you all to communist china. You'll love it there, you'll never have to try to think again - All is dictated!\\\

Ahhh! Refreshing FREedumb!

Brian
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 11:29am

Hey Almighty Dollar - The same scientists who are advising Whitmer were the ones advising Snyder. So their science is good now, but it wasn't four years ago. Except for a little bit of turnover, they are the civil servants who work in CDC and the State Public Health Department. But hey, don't let it cloud your desired political narrative of what happened in Flint.

Besides the legionella data taken right off of the state website, you should know that the measurements used as a baseline to measure lead in the water were falsified. Flint city staff admitted (pleabargained) that they were changing numbers (lead content in the water in lead service lines) to comply. These were specific tracked addresses as required by the lead and copper rule. Years later when the (state funded) lead pipe replacements were occurring, they found that many of the pipes used in their reporting weren't lead.

I'm not defending the switch to Flint water. But to say Snyder intentionally changed the water knowing it would harm Flint citizens is a thousand times less absurd than saying Whitmer intentionally held the primary knowing the coronavirus could spread.

Brian What?
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:07pm

Really? What are their names? What is your name? These could be great stories for Bridge to scoop, but maybe you prefer Breitbart, Alex Jones, or Limbaugh, you know, serious news.

Dr. D
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 2:56pm

Science indeed. That’s why paint, plants, and furniture sales are banned, but liquor and lottery are not. It would be interesting to know exactly who those “science-based” advisors get their information and assessments. Actually if you read the executive order, one could make a very convincing argument that both liquor and lottery games should be shut down , as they are not “...products necessary for the safety, sanitation, and basic operation of their residences.” (Executive order 220-42, para. 7.a5)

Math Sux
Thu, 04/16/2020 - 7:07am

Science, riiiight! So, scientifically speaking, explain the chromosome thing to me, please.

Male and female, right? Wait, I'll accept gay, but then please explain the 50, or is it 82, different gender identities so often touted by "progressives"? Also on the topic of science (which promotes logic) HOW can you accept the massive disruption of the economy without even a tentative deadline? Are you of the "if it saves just one life" view?

Should we discuss abortion, then? Naaah, because then we will wander into choices about legalized drugs, booze, speed limits, and likely, guns. No time for that, we have deep discussions to discuss. (Chortle, smirk, wink)

A Yooper
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 9:08am

Some quotes:
“We asked the governor’s office, and they wouldn’t give us any direction. We can’t get any direction from the Michigan Department of Agriculture,”
“There’s just confusion all over the place,” said Meegan Holland, spokesperson for the Michigan Retailers Association.
Listen up here......how in the Hell are people not getting the magnitude of this situation?
I mean really people.....as of yesterday we have over 1,600 deaths in Michigan from this virus. Hello is anybody there????
This is the first time a pandemic of this magnitude has hit the world, the U.S. and yes Michigan. Our medical response and treatment teams are overwhelming and Michigan doctors have died for God sake. What is it going to take to ram this home people???
“OUR Governor IS DESTROYING OUR HEALTH BY KILLING OUR LIVELIHOODS!,” Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey wrote on Facebook Friday.
Speaker of the House Lee Chatfield also criticized the new order on Twitter: “We can ensure safety and be reasonable. Let’s do both.”
A spokesperson for Shirkey declined to comment and a spokesperson for Chatfield did not respond to a message seeking comment Monday.
Of course Chatfield and Shirkey people won't respond. They know nothing more than any of us, and we we all want more information and guidance, but it's an unfolding drama that requires diligent monitoring 24/7. Blabbering on and on just illustrates their intense need be major players. But guess what boys, the games are suspended.
If you can't plant seeds or flowers or hot peppers, suck it up and get over it. There's always next year if you are still alive. And if you are proponents of Shirkey and Chatfield that may just be your demise.
And heading north to escape the risks, just puts you in the arena of a 22-bed hospital, with fewer resources. You have a better chance of survival after getting it than heading north.
Let'd be good little boys and girls, and yes and this includes Messrs. Shirkey and Chatfield this includes you too.
EVERYONE STAY HOME AND LET THE VIRUS RUN IT'S COURSE.

Kimberly
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 11:12am

Kudos.
But umm...ya can buy seeds online...as they said, no one says we can't BUY seeds...it just says how they can not be sold.

As for flat landers bringing their asses up north? We live in Mid Michigan and don't need infected people from downstate bringing this virus up here to our community. We live in a retirement town that is mostly elderly folks and really don't need them catching this --our hospitals are NOT equipped to deal with the repercussions that result when some outsider who is unknowingly infected infects the older folks here. We have dozens of buildings full of old and disabled people, we don't need outside contamination! People need to just follow the orders and deal with it because it is better than dealing with the loss of people you love.

FAB
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 1:47pm

I’m so glad that the left is finally coming around to the Pro-Life movement. This is a good and positive step in the right direction.

Amazing Grace
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 4:49pm

I’m so glad that everyone is finally seeing the right is not Pro-Life, and never was. This is a good and positive step in the right direction. TRUTH MATTERS!

middle of the mit
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 8:25pm

If the criteria for being pro-life is trying to save old folks, the republican party has lost it's credentials.

https://politicalwire.com/2020/04/14/gop-lawmaker-says-dying-from-virus-...

Rep. Trey Hollingsworth (R-IN) told WIBC that Americans need to get back to work immediately, even if it means significantly increasing the spread of the coronavirus.

He acknowledged that ending social distancing could result in major public health harms and “loss of life,” but he said it was better than letting the economy fall apart.

Said Hollingsworth: “It is policymakers’ decision to put on our big boy and big girl pants and say it is the lesser of these two evils.”\\\\

He is not the only one. Bill O'Rielly, half of FOX News, Glenn Beck amongst others. Glenn said the old people should feel it their patriotic duty to the economy to keep it going even if they die.

Pro Life for the living! WE would like to be included too!!!!

Fox
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 3:28pm

Hey Yooper, not sure what is in the water up there, but not even 3 flu seasons ago we lost an average of nearly exactly 1600 people per state to the normal flu within a few months - And back then, they only ruled the deaths as caused by the flu after ruling other things out, i.e. the underlying health conditions that the dead were suffering from prior to their deaths. Now, if there are antibodies from the kung flu, it doesn't matter if they were killed by a brain tumor, a heart attack, you name it - They are labeling it kung flu! Why, you ask? Because the hospitals get federal dollars for every case! It's the popular thing to do! Etc.

You need to chill out and stop drinking or smoking whatever you are drinking or smoking. I know you guys are a little squirrely up there but you don't need to jump on THIS crazy train too!

BTW I have quite a few friends in the UP who say it's business as normal and everyone is ignoring this fake news on kung flu, so I am sort of doubting that you are actually in the UP anymore. Did you move to Detroit?

News to You
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 5:00pm

You need to find God and stop lying so much. Your racist kung flu moniker only reflects your pathetic existence. Did your parents not love you as a child?

You're talking about typical flu deaths in a whole year. Right now after just a few months and monumental shutdowns across the world, the US has already had 25,794 deaths from COVID19. Anyone sane knows that thanks to our brave governor and other brave locals the deaths have been limited as best as possible, given the numbskull in the WH. Just ask Boris Johnson who wanted to do nothing in the UK, until he got infected. Republicans LIE, people DIE. Despite GOP efforts to limit broadband in northern Michigan, the UP still gets a lot of news.

ME
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 7:23pm

The population of Michigan is 10,000,000 multiply that by 0.00016 and you get 1600. That means 99.99984% of the state didn't die of COVID-19. 1600 doesn't sound like such a catastrophe when you look at it like that.

Anonymous
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:16pm

Sure, but you forget to mention that we have been staying home and that this is still just the beginning.

"ME no smart", says Cookie Monster.

Sun Rising
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:12pm

Great comments, A Yooper. Keep in mind it's snowing in the lower part of Michigan. No one can plant seeds now. The GOP just likes drama and is screaming for relevancy. Grand OLD Party is obsolete.

Bob Dunn
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 9:31am

This whole panedemic is messy and destructive. This is resulting is some restrictions which is causing frustration and deaths. In my opinion we have to side on saving lives. Since we have never gone through a period like this. I believe we have to depend on the science being provided to guide us. Governor Whitmer is doing this and we need to have patience. We also have to think beyond our selves and think about the state as a whole.

Nutty
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 10:15am

I had wonder, but now have concluded logic and intelligence is under the Governor's nonessential list. And the only seeds that are consider essential for sowing is "discord". I have seen this in a dream nothing left, no signs of life, except big weeds the size of trees otherwise everything else was desolate.

Anonymous
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 5:55pm

Go back to bed. The adults are in charge.

David Rupprecht
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 11:01am

And for seniors who have their own homes, physically unable nor have a lawn mower, and have contracted service for lawn cutting. How do they cut their grass? And most cities have ordinances that limit the height your grass can grow before the city comes and cuts it, charges you for it, or fines you in violation of an ordinance. Crazy.

Waterboy
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 1:03pm

Lets get real. I too do not like a lot of restrictions in place, but come on now. Can you tell me of any city writing violations for long grass?

FAB
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 1:49pm

Ticks and Lyme Disease. Hopefully, we aren’t trading in one disease only to see another increase.

PhD Social Sci
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:20pm

Too late for you....

Oh and Waterboy, you are right. The answer is NONE. No city is issuing ordinance violations for grass.

Cathy
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 12:22pm

As per his usual Shirkey attempts to sow division during a time when unity is demanded. There’s a lot of false information that is being disseminated, and I think you have to always discern if there is political posturing going on as opposed to sharing facts.

Cathy
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 12:33pm

Seth McFarland said it well concerning Fox news: "Everyone wants this to end. The sane among us are only trying to follow the lead of responsible science with regard to the timing. Please use your platform more responsibly."
If your not sourcing your news from multiple sources than your being led by your own bias.
Whitmer is being unfairly attacked by the GOP to attempt an advantage during a time when unity is called for.

Fox
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 5:06pm

Cathy, first of all, it's Seth MacFarlane.
Second of all, it's you're, not your.
Last but certainly not least, Seth MacFarlane is a nobody entertainer who has never done anything in his life other than pretend (i.e. act, entertain with fiction) and has a crap-tier degree in Arts.
And this is who you look up to?
I feel sad for you.

Wow
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:22pm

Brava! Such drama!

joe
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 1:47pm

I live in MI. How is it that I can't hire people to come cut my lawn and trim my trees but the city where I live had people they have hired trimming trees and cutting lawn this very morning??

Governor Whitmer?

Logic
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:27pm

No to landscaping; yes to trimming trees that can fall on service lines or streets. Try to use your brain. One is not essential; the other IS.

duane
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 2:35pm

I wonder whether our Governor has limited ability to focus or she only knows how to campaign.
We are in the middle of a health crisis and she goes on the online to talk about how she wants to ‘fix the damn roads’ rather than deal with the crisis.
When we have a primary for President with the mass [thousands attending campaign rallies and going to vote] turnout she encourages people to vote for former VP Biden and only hours after the votes are counted does she declare an emergency.
When her name goes on a list for potential VP candidates for Biden she is out there trying to start a verbal fight with the President.
When it comes to taking action she seems to follow what Ohio Governor Dewine does, declare a state of emergency [Ohio March 9, Whitmer March 10], close restaurants [Ohio Mar 15, Michigan Mar 16], order to stay-at-home [Ohio Mar 22, Michigan Mar 23], now the President and other Governors are planning to reopen parts of the economy and Governor Whitmer is forcing more local businesses to close.
I live in an urban community that has a low case rate and see the fishermen going out in their boats regularly for the past several weeks, why do they have to stop? I can assure you when putting their boat in the water they are not getting closer than 6’, if fishing with another they're so wrapped up in heavy clothes there’s no contact. I suspect it is better for their mental health and others for them to be out on the lake. When people have to be at home for days at a time why stop letting them buy paint [when at a grocery store selling paint that’s only steps away]? When I am working on my ‘to do’ list our household is much calmer than when I am sitting in front of the TV for hours/days.
I wonder if the Governor knows it’s not only the crisis, but the unintended consequences of her action that she needs to be taking into considerations.

Karl Krumph
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 6:40pm

She will never get nod for VP on ticket with Biden, that's going to Hillary. I got 500 on it.

Stop Jynxing
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:29pm

NO WAY, NEVER!

I want Obama and bot Clintons on the Supreme Court!

duane
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:42pm

That makes sense, after watching Biden for the past year and how quick the Democrats were in wanting to invoke the 25th Amendment about capability to fulfill the duties of the President and how all those around a President would be loyal Democrats you would have to offer pretty high odds to take the other side of your bet, even 2 to 1 would be enough.

Rachel N
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 12:18am

She is just another career politican, cares only about her image and career and nothing for us. I hate politicians so much. I wish they would all get coronavirus and die from it.

Karma
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:31pm

Well that's not nice.

NYC
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 3:14pm

I don't know, but there's a guy in DC who will sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. In it so over his head.

Fox
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 3:30pm

Here's what I want to know - Heard this earlier and it made me laugh so hard:

Has Whitmer passed Biden's sniff test yet?

Love you, Gret!
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 5:35pm

I don't know, but she passed mine!

Anonymous
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 5:43pm

Fox, remember when Trump bragged about grabbing women by the privates and how he talked about "models" during his national press conference about the COVID19 pandemic?

Charles
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 3:37pm

The Michigan Governor's coronavirus limitations on Michigan businesses are ridiculous. Every business is essential to the owner and its employees. Michigan business is essential to the well-being of the State. There are simple safeguards that can be made mandatory that would result in safe work environments. There is no way that the State is going to be able to make up for their lost revenue that will result from the Governor's edict.

To Simpletons
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:33pm

Not so simple, Chuck.

Pete
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 5:23pm

Glad she has thick skin, she’ll need it when she’s voted out.

Walkin on Sunshine
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:35pm

Elections aren't for awhile, Peter. Plus she will probably our VP for eight years.

Todd
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 6:28pm

So I can walk through a park but not with a golf club in hand. Lol!

Oh Todd!
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:36pm

Correct. Deal with it.

Tree Cutter
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 6:29pm

Article is about incoherent edicts and confusion surrounding them. Okay, got it. Has anyone ever gone to Secretary of State and you’re surprised that state government isn’t led by best and brightest? I didn’t read anything about Flint water crisis or Fox News in the article. Talk about off topic comments. Maybe Joe Biden’s dementia is contagious like the Wuhan virus. Good thing Whitmer didn’t ban breathing as half the state wouldn’t know what to do.

Too bad for you
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:39pm

To gas cutter, there is nothing confusing. You're just petulant.

K Miller
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 12:05am

We no longer care we have opened our own silk road for Gardening supplies and whatever else we need, Republican have done better in a shorter time span. Deal with it...

To shameless
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:40pm

Better mess, that's about it. Keep spreading the virus and we all have to endure more economic loss.

middle of the mit
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 12:44am

I am blowing the doors off your conservative, what should I call it? BS? Yeah!~ That's the proper name for it.

How or why do I say that? Ha ha ha ha! Your own words.

I tried to be a genuine friend and offer support for someone whose opinion I didn't agree with, and here is the exchange. If you think you are reading someone who was disingenuous This is where it is. Mary Sue........ I am talking about you.....

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-health-watch/michigan-coronavirus-q-re...

[[[Mary Sue
Fri, 04/10/2020 - 3:25pm

With all the rains, my basement in my new house has sprouted a leak. The problem is that water builds up on our side yard. So now that my husband just lost his job and has some time on his hands, he was going to dig a trench, put some rocks and tubing in it, and use that drainage to prevent our house from flooding. But apparently this isn't essential, so we can't, and my basement is flooding.]]]]

middle of the mit
Fri, 04/10/2020 - 9:57pm
Please note that the French drain will help with the flooding but they are mostly to used to deal with run off from your roof and are an alternative to gutters. You may have to grade your yard away from the foundation, or build or dig some type of diversion so that the water runs away from the house and doesn't just sit along the side of the house foundation once the well at the end of the drain fills up.

I hope this helps your situation.

I realize that these are trying times, but if we stick together we can pull through this with minimal deaths.

[[[Mary Sue
Sun, 04/12/2020 - 2:05pm

My father in law took your advice and went out and tried to dig a ditch with the shovel, like you suggested. He had a heart attack.

I also saw an elderly gentleman on the roof of his house attempting to fix a leak. He said he tried to call someone to do it, but the Governor had issued orders shutting down these professionals. After I walked away I saw him fall off the roof.]]]

middle of the mit
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 1:46am
Because now you are telling me that I am personally responsible for YOU Telling your elderly father in law to dig a ditch that YOU told ME YOUR husband was going to dig.

It is time FOR WORTHLESS CONSERVATIVE LIARS LIKE YOU TO TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSBILITY FOR YOUR PERSONAL DECISIONS. I told YOU to dig a ditch. If YOU asked your father to do it? THAT IS YOUR FAULT! IF HE HAD A HEART ATTACK AFTER YOU ASKED HIM TO DO WHAT I told you or your husband to do, THAT IS YOUR FAULT. I do assume that your husband is of better health and more capable? That is what you offered.

What I am getting from you is that you are a BLOVIATOR! AKA LIAR!'

middle of the mit
Tue, 04/14/2020 - 2:52am
Did you at least call an ambulance for your elderly gentleman on the roof of his house after he fell off?

Ha ha ha ha!!!

Flabbergastor!

What I have gathered is that conservatives will complain like whiney pants little children who don't get their own way and they will use the most bombastic and all of a sudden I have a problem..........when they are just full of Bull puckey!

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY CONS!

It's not just for breakfast anymore!

YES
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:44pm

Republicans LIE; People DIE.

thelostcamel
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 9:27am

If a person goes into a store and the items they want to buy are behind tape with signs saying they cannot buy them, I think it is honest for them to tell others, "I couldn't buy a ...." That is what has happened. So, people were not just putting false information out there. They were reporting their experience at stores and people were repeating it. Shouldn't this fact be a part of the "non-partison" information in this article? Maybe the stores misunderstood the orders but the consumers did not misunderstand what was happening to them in those stores.

Rob Ames
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:24pm

“It’s OK to be frustrated, it’s OK to be angry, and if it makes you feel better to direct it at me, that’s OK too, I’ve got thick skin,” Whitmer said.
Translation :I don't care what you think.

Molly
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 3:25pm

Is it surprising that Wretched Half-Whitmer is wearing a snakeskin print?

carla phillips
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 9:00pm

Really , I think with this virus shut down that they are using this to tell the public want to do and it is wrong . They are using the virus shutdown as an excuse to order people what to do like you would in a communist country

carla phillips
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 9:00pm

Really , I think with this virus shut down that they are using this to tell the public want to do and it is wrong . They are using the virus shutdown as an excuse to order people what to do like you would in a communist country

carla phillips
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 9:00pm

Really , I think with this virus shut down that they are using this to tell the public want to do and it is wrong . They are using the virus shutdown as an excuse to order people what to do like you would in a communist country

carla phillips
Wed, 04/15/2020 - 9:00pm

Really , I think with this virus shut down that they are using this to tell the public want to do and it is wrong . They are using the virus shutdown as an excuse to order people what to do like you would in a communist country

Susan Ryan
Thu, 04/16/2020 - 10:06am

At this difficult time, we look to our government to make decisions to protect our safety as well as our rights. These are not easy decisions, but perhaps a little input from the populace is warranted. For the past two weeks, my neighborhood has been quiet, although each evening a few gunshots punctuate the silence. I called the State Police last evening after my dog became overwhelmed once again by the unexpected piercing sounds. As I put on her thundershirt-- which works fairly well for thunderstorms, but not so well for fireworks or random gunshots-- I called the State Police for advice. I was told that it may be "someone getting ready for turkey season which opens this weekend." I am confused about the need to restrict the availability of gardening supplies during the pandemic when it is wise to grow some green groceries. This seems to be a vital and essential need. Michigan rsidents should be encouraged to work quietly in their own yards preparing gardens for the growing season ahead. This could be compared to the Victory Gardens which sprouted in our country's past times of coming together during worldwide adversity for a common good. I do not want to rain on Michigan hunters who may be looking to supplement their larders with fresh wild turkey, but that endeavor seems a bit more dangerous than gardening, with hunting accidents pulling medical workers away from the all-encompassing war against Covid-19. It appears that Michigan is not the place for veggie lovers during this time of Coronavirus.

Chris
Sat, 04/18/2020 - 8:46pm

If I wanted to buy seeds and start a garden I would do just that. The governor could pucker up and kiss my ass. Furthermore enforcement of such idiocracy would be met with the utmost of resistance.