Want Michigan to reopen soon? Stay home now, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer urges

Michigan is partnering with Walmart, Walgreens, CVS and Rite-Aid to open eight new drive-thru test sites across the state and making testing available to all “essential” workers, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said Monday. (Photo courtesy of the governor's office)

April 24 update: Gov. Gretchen Whitmer expected to extend stay-home order until May 15

LANSING — Gov. Gretchen Whitmer is urging residents to continue staying home while she contemplates opening parts of the economy, and she wants the White House to echo that message days after President Donald Trump appeared to encourage protesters in a call to “liberate Michigan.”

“What happens depends on how these next 10 days go,” Whitmer said Monday in a live briefing from the Romney Building in downtown Lansing.  

“To those of you who are hopeful we’ll be able to start loosening some restrictions, stay home now to better make the odds that we’re able to do that in 10 days. To those of you who want to get back to work as soon as possible, stay home. For those of you who made plans for June, July and August and want to see them through, stay home.”

Whitmer’s plea — which turned emotional when she discussed the weekend death of a 5-year-old Detroit girl — comes amid what appears to be a marked decline in new statewide coronavirus cases. The state on Monday reported 576 cases and 77 deaths in the prior 24 hours, the lowest number of new cases since March 26, and the lowest number of new deaths since April 5.

The overall declines are fueled by drops in metro Detroit, home to nearly 80 percent of statewide cases, even though caseloads are growing in other parts of the state, as Bridge reported Saturday.

“I want to be clear, living in a rural part of Michigan does not mean that you are safe from the virus,” the governor warned.  “Just because it’s not shown up in your community yet doesn’t mean it’s not already there.” 

Overall, 32,000 Michigan residents have tested positive for the virus, while nearly 2,500 have died.

Whitmer did not offer any specific  plans for reopening the economy but laid out what she called “potential workplace controls” she may impose on businesses beyond May 1, including employee temperature checks, physical distancing requirements, improved sanitation, protective equipment and rapid testing for employees at large workplaces. 

She and Dr. Joneigh Khaldun, the state’s chief medical executive, said Michigan is ramping up testing efforts as the state’s coronavirus caseload declines. The tests could inform regional economic decisions and help detect any second waves. 

Michigan is partnering with Walmart, Walgreens, CVS and Rite-Aid to open eight new drive-thru test sites across the state while expanding testing criteria to provide testing for any essential workers, including front-line health care workers and grocery store employees, whether or not they’ve experienced symptoms. 

Walmart and Walgreens have already opened testing sites in Southgate and Detroit, Whitmer said. CVS will open a Dearborn site on Tuesday, while Rite Aid is opening testing sites in Macomb, Swartz Creek, Eaton Rapids, Kentwood and Saginaw on Monday and Tuesday. 

“We know, according to all of the epidemiologists and scientists… that robust testing is essential to have confidence about our strategies for safely reducing risk and re-engaging sectors of our economy,” Whitmer said. 

Michigan has had more coronavirus cases than most states but has not performed as many tests as many peers, averaging 4,524 tests a day over the past week. 

The state has the “capacity” to process 11,300 tests each day but does not have enough of the swabs and reagents that are needed to complete that work, Whitmer said. 

It’s a point she raised earlier Monday on a call with Vice President Mike Pence and other governors from around the country, Whitmer told reporters, noting she also asked the White House to “echo” her request for residents to continue staying at home through at least the end of the month. 

“He conveyed that that was something they would do,” Whitmer said of Pence. 

The governors also warned the vice president about the looming budget shortfalls that state governments are facing because of the pandemic and resulting economic crisis, according to Whitmer, who announced she is personally taking a 10 percent pay cut from her $159,300 salary and is asking senior staffers in the executive office to take a 5 percent reduction.

Beyond testing, Khaldun said that identifying anyone who came into contact with a COVID-19 patient is “critical to the public health response.”

In recent weeks, staff from the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services have supported local health departments in southeast Michigan by contacting more than 12,000 people who may have come into contact with someone carrying the virus, Khaldun said. And the state has trained an additional 2,200 volunteers to conduct that work across the state. 

So-called contact tracing “really helps us in the public health field understand who may be at highest risk and contact them so that we can prevent further spread of the disease,” Khaldun said. 

Whitmer last week joined a coalition of governors working to develop a regional plan for reopening state economies when public health experts say it is safe, and she has convened a team of business and medical leaders to advise her while the Republican-led Legislature makes suggestions. 

Recommendations sent to her by House and Senate Republicans include “some good ideas,” Whitmer said, as did the White House plan released last week by the Trump administration. 

But the availability of testing resources will be key to any Michigan plans, Whitmer said. 

“We are going through a rigorous process using the best data, listening to the best medical minds and really trying to make sure the course that we chart will keep people safe and will preclude us from having a second wave,” she said.

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Queen Halfwhit
Mon, 04/20/2020 - 5:56pm

Thanks for more veiled threats. Can't wait to spearhead your recall.

Heaven Can't Wait
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 5:23pm

It's probably too late to prevent the second wave with the knucklehead protesters, churchgoers, and legislators insisting on gathering in person. They canceled Oktoberfest in Germany and Michigan, the US thinks everything's hunky-dory here. Too bad because now they'll probably have to cancel the AuSable River Canoe Marathon. We wanted to go to Pictured Rocks this summer, but that's probably not going to happen. This will be the worst Michigan summer ever, thanks to the GOP knobbers, Shirkey, Chatfield, Stamas, Allor. Quit rushing things without securing testing and supplies. Listen to our governor and the bipartisan group of governors across the Midwest who all want the same thing.

Marshall
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 10:00am

Despite your ignorance and name calling, I hope you enjoy Munising this summer. There is no reason that trip could not be taken with complete safety, even now. Covid 19 is not going away real soon, so please take appropriate precautions. As an adult you should be able to manage your own risks without a government order. Stay safe and live your life.

Beth Jacobs
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 12:56pm

Agree. I don't need Gretchen telling me how to wash my hands or when it's safe to come out of my house--and I am not one of those far right people. I know how to cover my mouth when I cough, not to go out when I'm sick, and to cover my hands when I'm pumping gas for my road trip.

duane
Thu, 04/23/2020 - 2:49pm

Beth,
You must have missed the Joe Biden 'class' on preventing the spread of Covid 19.

James Meadows
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 7:48pm

Knock it off with the freakin politics except when you go to the polls, to vote the bastards in or out.

Bernadette
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 5:47pm

Childish comment and name. If you don't know how to communicate in a mature and kind way, please don't comment.

Ronnie L
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 1:44pm

Bernadette,
You disgusting, communist sypathizing crazy person,
Why don't you go find a hole where crazy people like you hang out and stay here.
You're disgusting.

Bernadette
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 7:29pm

I must have pushed your buttons little Ronnie. I am sorry you have so much hatred and need to spend time name calling.

Ronnie L
Thu, 04/23/2020 - 4:19pm

Bernadette,

You know what I'm talking about. Don't deflect. You communist. Move to china.

Ronnie
Mon, 04/20/2020 - 6:44pm

Sounds like this tyrant needs another gridlock or five.
How about daily armed presence in front of the capitol building? Where is the michigan militia when you need them.

Bill
Mon, 04/20/2020 - 6:59pm

Why did she extend the date today and not wait for May 1 White house reported enough testing to go into phase 1

Anonymous
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 9:11am

The michgan legislature only allowed until May 1. There is nothing she can do once the deadline has passed.

Concerned Citizen
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 2:58pm

I've written to our state legislators urging them to NOT renew her emergency powers. The emergency, if it ever existed has past.

Whatever
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 5:41pm

Ronnie, the protest helped the country see what she's up against and reflected poorly on your cause. Increasing the protests will just further spread the virus among the like-minded. BTW I'm not talking about just COVID19; I'm talking about people with the underlying condition of Trump Derangement Syndrome, the abnormal delusional love of everything Trump, that is, except for HIS guidelines.

Ronnie L
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 1:46pm

Whatever,
First of all, you are incorrect about TDS - You have it backwards. TDS is blind hate of Trump. You can't redefine this 4 years after it was defined.
Second of all, I don't like Trump, but I don't have TDS and I was present at the protests. I did not vote for Trump.
You are correct about one thing - This is a demonstration of what she is up against - A well armed population who will defend their liberty.
Communist sympathizers like you will hopefully be deported in the next civil war... I think you'd love china!

Bernadette
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 7:32pm

Wow. Once more a demonstration of your hatred. Only cowards carry guns.

Ronnie L
Thu, 04/23/2020 - 4:19pm

Get out of the USA, communist. You don't belong here.

duane
Thu, 04/23/2020 - 2:49pm

Whatever,
I think you have it wrong, the Trump Derangement Syndrome is those who were/are suffering emotional depression from the 2016 election. I watched the suffers then so sure they knew who would win turn to crying as they saw that they were wrong. The suffers of TDS have spent all the time since the election try to overturn the election results with investigations putting the country through an impeachment during the earliest stage of Covid 19 coming public and spreading around the world, their symptoms are so strong that when President Trump started to ban travel to America and quarantined those returning home from China the TDS suffers were claiming it was racist and demanding travel be unrestricted. Even more recently watched Governors that had not stocked medical supplies as had recommended we personally acting the President and federal government which was their only source for those supplies.
I think Hillary Clinton demonstrated her having TDS when she attack those supporting Trump's candidacy as 'deplorables.'
I support President Trump based the results he has delivered, I don't agree with his personal style, but I do appreciate his willingness not to cave to political correctness attacks, I take what he says seriously, I don't take everything he says literally [something every previous holder of the Presidency has taught me throughout my life].

Anonymous
Mon, 04/20/2020 - 6:51pm

More fear mongering from the Governor. Says she will use data to guide, but ignores the data when she speaks.

Math Sux
Mon, 04/20/2020 - 7:12pm

10% voluntary pay cut? Ooooo, such a sacrifice. There are people without work who don't make that 10% in a year!

In the upper end, some professionals or self-employed who earn more than the governor are now missing almost a month and a half of pay and will NEVER make up their lost income nor did they receive a *stimulus* check.

Lucy
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 2:09am

I don’t see anyone else giving up their paycheck to help.

Math Sux
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 7:36am

Involuntarily? Sure they have. I doubt you remember those who were laid off or owners who were forced to close their small business thereby foregoing ALL of their income. Surely you remember the so-called "super rich" who earn over $90K and are ineligible for the pitance stimulus check?

Marinated
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 3:31pm

She certainly isnt giving up her paycheck. 10% is chicken sh-t.

Rugrat
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 7:06am

Such a big sacrifice of our fine governor. She is paid $436.00 a day and she is going to give $43.00 a day back. She makes it sound like such a big sacrifice on her part. All I see her doing is trying to get the dumb Biden to pick her as his VP.

Stimulating
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 5:43pm

Donnie Trump will send you his little paycheck with his big fat signature.

Anonymous
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 7:57am

I bet you have no problem spending your "paycheck" from him

Marshall
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 9:49am

To be fair, I think POTUS donates his whole paycheck all the time.

Hank Quayle
Mon, 04/20/2020 - 8:41pm

Did you know that in 2017, 1700 people died of the flu in Michigan? In 2016, 1.6K died of the seasonal flu. In 2015, 1.9K died of the seasonal flu (source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/states/michigan/michigan.htm). As of right now, almost 2.5K have died of the coronavirus. We're over the peak, herd immunity is likely developing, new treatments are invented, and the vulnerable populations have either died or are protected, and we're over 1/3 of the way through the year. Quick math suggests that in the end, 7K-10K will die of the virus- well below the number that usually die in a usual flu season.

Look, math is easy to do. Creating responsible policies is a lot harder. The Governor has painted herself into a box here- she wants to be VP, she wants to fight with the President, and she enacted this draconian policies initially. To pull back now would be the smart thing to do, but she won't, because her pride and partisanship is on the line. She is going to dig in, double-down, and hope that partisanship and fear wins her enough of a plurality in the next election to win. And most of Michigan will suffer for this. Pride is a dangerous vice, and that vice is going to lead to a lot of deaths due to increases in suicide, increases in alcohol abuse, delays in cancer screenings, postponement of preventive medicine, and a rise in drug overdoses.

Will the protests cause her to reconsider her policies and adopt better ones, or will the protests only cause her to dig in harder and increase the beatings until morale improves? I guess we'll find out.

I call BS
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 5:48pm

Did you know your stats are for whole years, not just a couple of months? Did you know that there is no proven herd immunity? Did you know everyone would have had to have been exposed and they haven't? You can't just repeat FUX News lies and expect everyone to believe you.

Hank Quayle
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 11:39pm

I did know those stats were for the whole year. Let's do some math, shall we? 2.5K have died in Michigan and it's April (4th month out of 12). So let's multiply that by 3 to get a total of 7.5K. That's still less than the 16K that died of the flu several years ago, and even farther away from the 19K that died a couple years before that. Now, I know what you're saying- "it's more deadly than the flu", even though statistically this doesn't seem to be the case. But I'll humor you, because you want this thing to be deadly, so let's double that number of 7.5 to 15K, or even triple it to 22.5K- those are still in line with a bad flu season.

And there is far more evidence that this virus will eventually create herd immunity then there is that it won't. It is a virus- it isn't magical or anything. It's a corona virus, and there are others out there that we've dealt with before. There is ample research to highly suggest that a herd immunity will develop to this virus. There is very little research to suggest that we won't. And herd immunity doesn't require "everyone to be exposed"- just enough people have to be exposed to create dead ends such that the virus doesn't spread to new hosts- I think I've heard around 60% of the population tossed around. If you're under the age of 70, not obese, not a smoker, with a healthy immune system, you have a lower chance of dying from this virus than you do of getting in a car accident on your way to work. So let's stop being afraid and tossing around insults and start getting to work beating this thing.

Ronnie L
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 1:47pm

If you look at the numbers, you will see that nearly all of those deaths occured within a few months. The flu is seasonal, dummy.
Now get back in your corner and hang your head in shame while you gobble down Fake News Koolaid.

Concerned Citizen
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 3:17pm

Did you know death rates reported include presumptive, untested casualties? Did you know we've never been told verified casualties vs presumptive cases in death rate reporting? Did you know real data (e.g. Santa Clara, LA County) is proving that casualty rates vs those infected is in the fractions of a percent ?

Ronnie L
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 8:43pm

Citizen, everyone will ignore those numbers because they are facts. Everyone is choosing hysteria over reality here. It's time for a civil war and mass deportations to china. These commie wackos would love it there, they'd never have to think again.

Publius
Mon, 04/20/2020 - 8:42pm

Containment for this virus was only possible at its point of origin in China and it would appear the CCP knowingly allowed it to be transmitted globally. Neither Trump nor Whitmer could do anything about it. No virus that has a similar transmission methodology to this one has ever been successfully contained. Do the research. The area under the so called flattened curve represents either infection or mortality, but flattened or not, they are the same. If 5,000 people are going to die, then 5,000 people are going to die, short term or long term. The hospitals in Michigan have sufficient capacity now. Limit the economic damage and lift the lock-down. If you want to stay a prisoner in your house for a year or two, do so. It’s your choice. Serological tests are showing the virus is already widely spread and the mortality rate will fall accordingly since most the infected have minor or no symptoms. Wise, common sense precautions, yes. Economic suicide and becoming voluntary prisoners, no.

Brian
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 8:45am

Don’t grid lock anywhere but the Governors home...at 2AM...with horns blaring!!! This woman has got to go! She is playing politics with peoples lives. This is a classic example of the “.cure” being worse than the disease. There are people making more money off of unemployment by staying home than they were working!! Meanwhile the small business owners who have worked their entire lives to build a business are seeing their life’s work go down the drain! This Witless woman does not care in bit about that. It is all about Detroit to her, screw the rest of the state!

To all GOP dolts
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 5:52pm

It would be funny to see you go to jail for that. You have rights to protest, but only at a reasonable time and place. State troopers would jail you and we'd all LOAO.

Yep
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 8:20am

From a Michigan lawyer in the Freep today:

"It is a basic due-process principle that the state can impose reasonable restrictions on liberty in order to protect the public health, safety, etc., and can prevent persons from doing things that may be harmful to themselves or others. This traces back to the 1905 case of Jacobsen v. Massachusetts, where the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a requirement that people be vaccinated for smallpox. This principle applies to a host of laws, such as substance abuse laws, cyclist laws, and the like."

While businesses want to open, employees, like most people in Michigan, want to be sure they are safe. Ask yourself this when the economy reopens, "Where is the boss?" Is he or she on the front lines too? Is he or she providing PPE, healthcare insurance? It's easy for him or her to claim to want to die from covid rather than stay closed, if he isn't on the front line dealing with possibly sick customers and coworkers.

Ronnie L
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 1:49pm

You're incorrect - State troopers are against this order as they swore to uphold the constitution and its amendments and a majority of them are fully aware of the fact that not a single jury would uphold a charge of violating the governor's illegal order.

You need to remember, the people against this are the self-sufficient well-armed type.

You need to get back into your useless little corner and keep suckling on the government teat like a good little communist. I've never voted Republican but I will be in the next election.

Beth
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 9:01am

More veiled threats from Whitmer. She paints this as a few Trump supporters who are protesting when in fact it is not. More damage will be caused by missed doctor's appointments, surgeries, suicides and overall lack of income. Food shortages are not too far away. She is promoting herself for the VP and taking this hard stance only makes her look foolish. She also doesn't rely on science and facts. I'm going to wait and see what she says May 1. If she intends to lock us down longer, then time for more protests. As for her big "pay cut" that's a total slap in the face to Michiganders. We deserve better.

Whitmer for VP
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 5:57pm

You'd be more believable if you weren't posting anonymously saying the exact same things with different names. Bridge, please do a story on missed doctor's appointments, surgeries, suicides so we can put all those tired lies to rest already. Never mind, I'm sure these liars will just repeat them anyway.

Seriously
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 9:19am

Would any of you really want her job. Just step back and think if that was your 5 year old daughter that passed away, or if it was your spouse or your parents that contracted this disease. Why don't you come in down to Detroit and volunteer in the hospital so you can see first hand what is really going on. Go and hold the hand of a healthy 30 years person that has covid 19 as they are trying to breath with their eyes looking at you as they die. !!! I understand some of the fustraytion , do your research and stop believing everything on Facebook . Everyone needs to get off their high horse, this is a time when we all need to just calm down and come together as a community and help your neighbor and our state .

Revere
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 1:14pm

You're off your rocker... How many kids died from the flu this past season? At least 92? And how many over the same time period from coronavirus? 2?
Go jump in the lake, you crazy person! You've lost it!

You've lost it!
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 6:54pm

Most of us don't use rockers, but we'll ask you when we want to know about the 1918 Spanish Flu. Now you go jump in the lake! LOL Are you Paul Revere?

A Yooper
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 9:22am

This virus is a killer, plain and simple. It doesn't give a crap about your sex, age, religious preference, nothing.
The Abbot laboratories test is currently the most widely used in the U..S. and is now considered to the be the least accurate plus people are getting re-infected which should tell you all that until a vaccine is available we're all potential toast.
Just what we need is more boobs running around Lansing with vigilante mentality toting guns, flags, Swastikas, flashing the Nazi salute, causing traffic flow problems for first responders, etc. But it puts lead in your pencils you whine. But, you don't have an eraser.
If you want to shove your face into this killer through stupid behavior, have at it. If you want to shove your mate's face into this killer through stupid behavior, then have at it. If you want to shove your parents faces into this killer through stupid behavior, have at it. If you want to shove your grandparents faces into this killer through stupid behavior, have at it. The Grim Reaper has lots of room in his bag and will gladly stuff you all in it. And he is the eraser for your pencils. Karma Baby!
Just do the rest of us a favor.....don't waste time, resources, medicines, ventilators, and the efforts and lives of the medical community to save your sorry arses.
You are an insult to the bodies stacked like cord wood in the refrigerated trucks in Detroit.

Revere
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 1:17pm

"It doesn't give a crap about your sex, age, religious preference, nothing"
INCORRECT
In fact it only cares if you are very elderly with underlying health conditions or very obese (a serious underlying health condition in itself).
Based on the few relevant studies conducted in the past week with random sample populations (instead of the statistically irrelevant numbers published in the news), coronavirus is in fact less deadly than the flu.
So all of this was for nothing.
Go out and about, live your lives as normal, let no one stop you. No jury will let these "executive order violation" citations stand.

Paul R
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 6:07pm

"coronavirus is in fact less deadly than the flu. So all of this was for nothing. Go out and about, live your lives as normal, let no one stop you. No jury will let these 'executive order violation' citations stand."

COVID19 is much more deadly than the flu.
The Stay at Home Orders saved thousands of lives in Michigan.
You are complicit if people do as you say to break the law.
It's a question of law, not fact for a jury.

So in sum, everything you posted is false.

Ronnie L
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 1:53pm

He is actually correct - There have been only a few studies, very recently, where they tested a random sample of the population in an area. In every case, they found that at least 15% of the population in the random sample had coronavirus and were unaware of it, and overall found that around 1/3rd of the population in those areas has already contracted it and recovered and have only antibodies remaining (the antibody tests produce a significant number of false negatives so the number is surely higher).
Therefore, a good assumption is that up to 1/3rd of the entire USA population has already been exposed, contracted and recovered.
Divide the number of claimed coronavirus deaths by 1/3rd of the population and the fatality rate comes out lower than the flu.
This explains why we have only lost a handful of children to coronavirus, meanwhile the flu kills far more every season.
Use some basic reasoning here, Revere is correct.

Sensible Girl
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 5:51pm

This is interesting, and runs counter to your hysterical scare-mongering name-calling editorial-

John P.A. Ioannidis - co-director of Stanford University's Meta-Research Innovation Center and professor of medicine, biomedical data science, statistics, and epidemiology and population health - thinks that data shows Americans are vastly overreacting to the coronavirus. He says- "The data collected so far on how many people are infected and how the epidemic is evolving are utterly unreliable. Given the limited testing to date, some deaths and probably the vast majority of infections due to SARS-CoV-2 are being missed. We don’t know if we are failing to capture infections by a factor of three or 300. Three months after the outbreak emerged, most countries, including the U.S., lack the ability to test a large number of people and no countries have reliable data on the prevalence of the virus in a representative random sample of the general population."

"This evidence fiasco creates tremendous uncertainty about the risk of dying from Covid-19. Reported case fatality rates, like the official 3.4% rate from the World Health Organization, cause horror — and are meaningless. Patients who have been tested for SARS-CoV-2 are disproportionately those with severe symptoms and bad outcomes. As most health systems have limited testing capacity, selection bias may even worsen in the near future.

The one situation where an entire, closed population was tested was the Diamond Princess cruise ship and its quarantine passengers. The case fatality rate there was 1.0%, but this was a largely elderly population, in which the death rate from Covid-19 is much higher.

Projecting the Diamond Princess mortality rate onto the age structure of the U.S. population, the death rate among people infected with Covid-19 would be 0.125%. But since this estimate is based on extremely thin data — there were just seven deaths among the 700 infected passengers and crew — the real death rate could stretch from five times lower (0.025%) to five times higher (0.625%). It is also possible that some of the passengers who were infected might die later, and that tourists may have different frequencies of chronic diseases — a risk factor for worse outcomes with SARS-CoV-2 infection — than the general population. Adding these extra sources of uncertainty, reasonable estimates for the case fatality ratio in the general U.S. population vary from 0.05% to 1%."

So it appears that based on data, science, and non-partisan experts that the death rate is around the same as a bad seasonal flu or double the death rate of a seasonal flu, but not "a killer, plain and simple".

But I understand where you are coming from- you're afraid, scared, confused, and upset. It'll be okay. It'll be okay.

Beth
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 1:02pm

Thank you for a thoughtful and well written piece. I bet Gretchen will not take these as science and facts though.

duane
Sat, 04/25/2020 - 12:06am

Yooper,
More times than not your comments show personal thought. This virus like any other virus doesn't have the capacity to care, it simply is and like all such contagious diseases, bacteria's, and the like it is something we have to develop personal practices that will prevent or mitigate contact, and fortunately we have people that have developed the knowledge and skills to protect use from them.
What we need to decide how much of the way we live will we sacrifice to avoid risks. My threshold is probably different than yours but that doesn't mean you or others should be taking away my rights.
As for your will to shove someone's face into a killer or to confront the dying, that is cheap theatrics and it diminishes those who are suffering and those who care for them, as for bodies stacked like cord wood before you make that comparison talked to someone that has had to be part of such a detail [worked with a guy that describe a night that when the morning came they has that task, it not something to be offhanded about].
Breath next time before venting your emotion trying to intimidate another, try to help them understand your perspective.

Anna
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 9:30am

Judging from her recent rhetoric, Gov. Whitmer is responding to the protests about *some* aspects of her policies by threatening Michiganders with even more senselessly restrictive policies , for longer periods. Only Pennsylvania has restricted residential and business construction work the way Gov. Whitmer has, and NO other state has restricted which of their ordinarily-stocked goods "critical" retailers who choose to remain open are allowed to sell during general shut-downs. The CDC and most recent Federal guidelines explicitly mention that most landscaping and groundskeeping work can be performed safely while maintaining infection control measures. Refusing to allow Michigan bedding plant growers to ship out their perishable crop to their contracted customers, even those in other states, just forces a significant segment of Michigan's agricultural economy into needless bankruptcy. Whitmer's non-scientific, extra-strict restrictions on our citizens have not served to moderate or reduce the instances of COVID-19 in Michigan compared to Ohio or Illinois. They have imposed significant economic hardship, especially among the folks who work in small or seasonal businesses.

However, I agree wholeheartedly that we should not relax the general "stay at home" order for urban and suburban residents until we have 10-14 days worth of testing at a MUCH higher rate than we have achieved so far. We should not relax the restrictions on medium or large public gatherings until or unless we have testing data that implies that the percentage of active SARS-COV-2 infections in the general population has fallen, and we have a mechanism for tracing contacts of all those who test positive. I, for one, am willing and economically able to stay home for longer in order to get the data we need to make science-based decisions. Many Michiganders could return to economic stability if Whitmer's needlessly strict restrictions on work normally conducted outdoors and at "social" distances are relaxed, which might mitigate their resistance to the continuation of other infection-mitigation restrictions.

I think we will also need a reliable, freely-available antibody test and a policy of screening employees for (at least temporary) SARS-COV-2 immunity before we allow people to resume work in businesses where social distancing is not feasible.

Annie
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 9:32am

People who are angry take time to squawk louder, but most of us are doing our part to stay home and grateful that we can stay safe.

This is a shout out to the majority of Michiganders who are grateful that our Governor is standing up and making hard choices to keep everyone safe. If it was your neighborhood, your loved ones on the line, perhaps you wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. This is difficult but temporary.

Thanks, Governor Whitmer. I do not envy how difficult your job is right now.

Al Simon
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 10:15am

She should get off ass and help the the people of Michigan get their unemployment checks and help business get the financial assistance that was promised.

Libby Smart
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 10:22am

Not shockingly, the Governor was called out again for causing panic and spreading fear in order to justify her continued expansion of power.

Dr. Ben Johnston at Christie Clinic said there can be viruses and bacteria on objects like a gas pump, but chances of contracting COVID-19 at a gas pump are extremely unlikely. He walked us through the logic.

"First, someone would have to cough within six feet of that pump and then germs would have to land on that pump handle or someone would have to have the germs on their hand," Johnston said. "Then it would have to touch that pump and it would have to touch that pump in such a way that the germs were transferred to it. Finally, the germs would have to survive on that pump... Then, someone else would have to grab the handle of that pump in such a way that the germs were transferred to their hands... That person that grabbed the pump would have to grab it in such a way that they would touch their mouth or mucus membranes in a way that would transfer those germs."

The chances therefore of catching the virus from a gas pump are low- statistically lower than being hit by lightning. Now, some people do get hit by lightning every year, but to suggest that people should run their lives in fear of a lightning strike is absurd. And that's what our Governor is- absurd.

What?
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 6:38pm

I don't know how you pump your gas, but I usually stand next to it and hold it in my hand, not six feet away. If I happen to sneeze, it will spread droplets in different directions. We already see increased infections in places that are opening. So people have to be far wiser than the ignorant protesters who were spreading the disease in Lansing.

Deborah Anne
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 10:35am

Wow I applaud the governor initiating her 10% cut in the salary as well as 5% of her staff, it's not enough. Healthcare employees and leaders are taking 25% cuts in pay. Small businesses are taking 30 to 50% cuts in pay. Her 5% cut is meaningless.

None of your bu...
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 12:41pm

A second wave is inevitable, whether now or later. A negative test doesn’t mean you won’t get it, so what then if you are a symptomatic and don’t show any signs. Then you go around thinking you are free of it. What’s the point? What a waste of expensive testing. Keep moving the goal post Gretchen.

Clean Eating
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 6:28pm

Okay, I'll take the bait.

It's like when there is E Coli in your hamburger or listeria in your strawberries. You kind of want to trace where it came from and where it was distributed. You don't just want to ignore it and have people eat it, hoping for the best, especially if it's food for your pregnant wife, child or someone with an underlying health condition. I know that many people die from food poisoning every year. It's doesn't mean we should ignore it. We still need to inspect farms, growers, processing and packaging facilities, warehouses, trucking companies, wholesale and retail locations, restaurants, etc.

It's basically the same principle. You want to test and contact trace the virus to contain it. Is that clear? Otherwise, go for it; eat sh_t and die.

Jack
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 1:16pm

She's done a great job, and it's not her fault if the more illiterate of MI haven't been paying attention that the best and brightest medical minds across the nation are saying she's handling this exactly how she should.
In contrast, can you imagine if Snyder was still running things? - he'd not only never do a stay-at-home order, he'd likely poison your family on top of it.

Jill
Sun, 04/26/2020 - 10:40am

Jack,

Best and brightest minds? If this is the case? We are indeed..... doomed.

or212
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 1:22pm

This is exactly how a good Governor runs things. She's even looking out for these childish "protesters", even when they don't read enough to understand her extensive & continued stay-at-home order is exactly what is being recommended by the medical community. The rest of world applauds her work.

Truth is, the far-right will always blow up and be heart attack candidates over anything a democrat does (even though they like it when a republican does it), so do like the rest of the State does - ignore them.

No kidding
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 6:43pm

Can you imagine Trump ever caring about anything besides his base? He never even pretended to represent all Americans. Trump: Worst President in the History of the US.

Sheryl Anderson
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 3:04pm

The Governor needs to stop infringing on our constitutional rights and bring the legislature together to vote. She does not have the power or rights to make these kinds of decisions. She should be removed from office immediately.

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duane
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 6:46pm

In a time of crisis Michigan needs a leader, not a manager. A leader inspires people to actions, she doesn’t impose actions on people.
Governor Whitmer should be describing what needs to be done and encouraging people use their ingenuity to achieve the needed outcome.
The Governor needs to be explaining what we need to do and why to prevent infection with the virus and sharing means people can use encourage people to own their safety and health rather discouraging people being creative and trying to find ways to be more effective.
Telling someone that being in the middle of a lake in a powered boat fishing violates add risk to people across the state undermines the credibility of the proclamation in the battle with the virus.
The virus moves from person to person we need to avoid direct contact and six feet of spacing works, the virus enters our system through the eyes, nose, and mouth so we need to avoid touching our faces, the virus can be air borne so we need to avoid breathing it out/in.

middle of the mit
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 2:01am

duane,

I don't know what briefings you are watching where you think The President is doing better than the Governor. Perception, eh?

As far as ingenuity? People are making and giving away their own home made face masks. What I would like to know is where are all these wealthy ingenious people? Why aren't they stepping up? Is the Governor stomping them with her jackboot? Are you sure that isn't just a tall leather boot?

Whine and whine about not being able to use my boat. Who is using their boat this time of year anyway? Maybe hunters. Most of them use row boats. It's the gas pumps and docks. And I assume also to curb a lot of people from coming up north and spreading.

You can say you are responsible all you want. I see what goes on out there. No one is telling you not breath in, that is your perception. Or exaggeration.

These are the tough preppers who are ready to hole up and live for 10 years in a bunker.

They wouldn't have made it through the Great Depression.

duane
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 1:43pm

middle,
You tend to assume too much, when I am talking about fishing from boats they are local, driving their trailered [open bow, 12-16', and no built-in gas tanks] boats to the community boat ramps and unloading their boats into the local lake and some even go out to the big lake . And they are local because this isn't the northern Michigan and it is consistent year around from ice fishing, to getting their boats out as soon as the ice is clear [some were on the lake in February], to the late summer runs. I am surprised you have seen those kind of boats in your northern neighbors' yards.
If you assume the ban on power boats is to prevent the Detroiters [Michigan's hot spot] from driving up north than why hasn't there been any adjustments in the restrictions for the lower risk [drastically few hospitalized cases] in northern communities?
Almost everyone of the daily federal [President and staff] presentations has included experts describing the science of the virus, testing, supply logistics, etc. Almost everyone from the State presentations is the Governor reading a prepared statement, and someone from her staff reading a prepared statement, I have yet to hear about facilities, about the state's stockpile, about local logistics [except to berate the federal government demanding they file the local needs]. Who started the conversations with Ford and GM to help with supply problems [no one claims it was Gretchen Whitmer or her staff]. Open you mind to results and not be biased by personal wants.

middle of the mit
Fri, 04/24/2020 - 11:06pm

Yeah duane. What you just described are the row boats that I was talking about. Most of which are equipped with gas engines because Americans can't actually row a boat anymore. It is beneath them. Remember that when you tell other Americans they should pick your food for less than minimum wage.

Do I think you would do that and remember it? LOLLOLLLOOOL!!!!!

And duane, do I need to remind who lives up here and who doesn't? O'tay butwheat! I live up here! YOU do NOT! You think we still have lots and lots of local stores to do business with. You are sorely mistaken.

And nobody puts their boat out this early. It is still only forcast to be in the low 50's this week. You do understand that there is still quite a bit of windchill effect on the lake don't ya? Better put on your winter gear!!

It doesn't matter duane, they are coming up now. And they are going to spread it. And they are going to blame you for bringing it up. And I don't blame you at all. I blame the people who politicized a pandemic. And there is only one way a pandemic can be politicized. Either it's a hoax, or those that call it a hoax are the ones politicizing it.

WE are about to find out who is right.

I hope you are.

You can complain about what the Governor is doing but if you saw my previous posts you know that the Feds are holding supplies from Governors that don't agree with the President.

That is literraly the reason for incognito transfers that the FED doesn't know about.

And at least our Governor isn't telling people to spray bleach up their nose or huff Lysol to kill the virus inside.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/the-long-strange-trip-of-one-shi...

I'll tell ya what duane, when you can admit to me that 40 years of trickle economics has led to anything other than a conglomeration of wealth in urban and rural areas,, then I will consider listening to you.

The problem with that scenario?

You will have to admit that your economic philosophy is what is causing the conglomeration of wealth.

Conundrums..........they suck don't they!??!?!??!?!

And why should GM or Ford be required to do anything? This is NOT WWII! WE are not asking GM and Ford to produce tanks or hummers or even guns. All of which have to do with metal.

We should be asking them to offer up their vacated factories that they left empty when they went to China or Mexico and then they should allow those plants to be used by the people, or is corporations?, that make the ventilators? Isn't that what both companies are doing before the President asked them to?

duane, I would normally tell you to take the smartest person in the worlds advice, but you seem to have a hard time figuring out that the person you voted into the highest office in the land is smoking something I have never seen the effects of.

When in the middle of a pandemic he can joke about sucking down bleach and lysol and you have problems with what the Governor is saying?

Perception.....

When you can tell me that 1+1=2

And it is ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

Then we can talk

duane
Sat, 04/25/2020 - 6:01pm

middle,
I am beginning to wonder about how far north you live, for over 30 years I have lived on what many consider the southern boundary of ‘northern’ Michigan. I have read the plaque identifying the middle of the mitten as St. Louis, which is south of that boundary line. I know that the ‘four corner’ shops have faded away, but there are still those modern versions of the old general stores that carry everything from groceries such to adult beverages to personal supplies, to things for their vehicles, some that the Governor deem essential and others in the same aisle not essential.
You need to see Americans; watch people using paddle boards, kayaks, canoes, all of which are propelled by paddlers for fishing. As for the powered boats, most locals use them to get to their spots quicker for more time fishing, others use them for trolling, still other use them to maneuver slowly along the shores while fishing. As for when boats into the water, I wonder if you have ever visited Houghton or Higgins lakes once the ice had cleared. Even this year the fisherman were out on our local lake and the big lake when there was still ice in the water [NOAA recorded the conditions in upper 30s and fishermen did have winter weather gear on]. Fishermen in my community seem more committed to their sport than hunters.
Are supplies being clamored for by the States, are those stocking up what the States hadn’t when it was recommended, are those the ones they were crying for but wouldn’t have/didn’t used [like the Democrat Governor of New York demanding 30,000 ventilators and only used 5,000 [all provided], of the thousands of beds never used, or is this about the hundreds of beds and hospital facilities the Army Corp of Engineers/FEMA delivered and set of up in Detroit that Democrat Governor Whitmer was yelling for that were not used]? You seem unable/unwilling to see the whole story.
You condemn 40 years in a system that we have use since the country’s inception has taken a wilderness and turned it into a bastion of liberty that has raised the quality of life across the world and turn the income level used to define our ‘poor’ equal that is at level of the ‘wealthy’ in many countries around the world. You condemn a system that is provides a transparency that the next largest economy that survives on total denial of transparency
My best guess is the Democrat Governors of states that were in debt before the virus are trying to manipulate the federal government aid to both fill the stockpile of medical supplies they had not done before the virus and to get money to pay down debt unrelated to the virus, that is all partisan politics.

Matt Harag.
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 6:49pm

I didn’t get the feeling that the President was encouraging protesters. That being said. Protesters do have a right to speak. Governor seams to be parenting, more than leading.
Even her own neighborhood Golf course was filling up with what I assume were members not adhering to the social distancing. We need all the facts surrounding deaths of infected. As well as facts regarding cured and successes in progression. Thanks a bunch for allowing my comments.

Michael 52
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 11:12pm

Her mandate is working. We've gone from having the third highest new cases to the 7th. This is why we in the medical community fully support Governor Whitmer's mandate - it works, and it saves lives.
Ignore those trying to politicize this.

Walther Funk
Fri, 04/24/2020 - 10:08am

Who freaking cares? The minute the people emerge from their homes- now, 3 months from now, 1 year from now, 3 years from now- they will catch the virus or not catch the virus. And since the mortality rate of this virus is less than double a seasonal flu, very very few will die. The point of the lock down order was to flatten the curve to prevent our hospital systems from being overwhelmed. Not only did that not happen because this virus wasn't as bad as people said it was, our hospital systems are now so underwhelmed that they are suffering billions in losses and having to lay off staff, reduce investments, and potentially close. A statistically meaningless temporary drop in the increase in infections at the cost of inflicting a historic Great Depression is not a good trade-off. You need to stop politicizing this issue- just because it's Governor Karen up there, you're willing to support any policy, no matter how crazy or ineffective- but reasonable, sensible, responsible, rational, and data-driven people know that the lock-down needs to end now.

Nor33
Tue, 04/21/2020 - 11:18pm

Notice how none of these crass Whitmer haters are protesting the republican Governors that are extending virtually identical mandates to hers?
They hate her because she's a democrat and a woman, not because of anything rational.

Scar
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 8:45am

What an insufferable cunt. Michigan's own Dolores Umbridge

Concerned Citizen
Wed, 04/22/2020 - 2:57pm

Wait a minute. When did flattening the curve become license to an endless incarceration? This power grab by Whitmer needs to be stopped. Our tinpot dictator must be recalled.

Revere
Thu, 04/23/2020 - 10:16pm

She can't flatten her own curves, she won't be flattening anyone elses. She needs to stay away from those doughnuts.